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Constitution candidate uneasy about entitlements

Monday, October 27, 2008 | 11:38 p.m. CDT; updated 9:27 a.m. CDT, Wednesday, October 29, 2008
James Rensing says expanding the two-party system would be better for everyone.

JEFFERSON CITY — James Rensing, the Constitution Party candidate for lieutenant governor, acknowledges he might not be the obvious choice for office.

But, he said, many residents cast a vote for Republicans or Democrats each election without feeling completely comfortable about their decision.

James Rensing

HOMETOWN: Webster Groves.

PERSONAL: 41. He is married and has one son.

PARTY AFFILIATION:
Constitution

CAMPAIGN WEB SITE: rensingforltgovernor.com

OCCUPATION: Certified signing agent in the mortgage industry.

EDUCATION: Between 1986 and 1991, Rensing took classes at MU, the University of Missouri-St. Louis, Southwest Missouri State University and Maryville University.

BACKGROUND:
From 1992 to 1999, Rensing worked as a licensed nursing home administrator in Clayton before moving to independent real estate sales. He is a former member of the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps.


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"People should vote with their conscience and their opinions and what they believe in," he said. "We should have three, four, five, six parties running the government. I think that would be better for everyone."

Rensing, a resident of Webster Groves in St. Louis County, worked as a licensed nursing home administrator in Clayton before moving to independent real estate sales in 1995. He is a certified signing agent, or, as he described, an intermediary between banks and customers seeking loans to refinance their homes.

He is married and has one son.

As a member of the Constitution Party of Missouri, Rensing said he stands for wresting power away from the federal government and giving it back to the states.

"I think governments are run better the closer they are to their people," he said.

Asked if he supported restoring Medicaid cuts made in 2005 and what, if anything, he would do to make health care more affordable to all Missourians, Rensing said he is "not a big fan of entitlement programs."

"Personally I think they're bankrupting our society and states," he added. "I think Medicare or Medicaid is kind of a socialistic program that we're in. If it could be phased out, I'd be more in favor of that."

Rensing said by eliminating certain government programs, health care would be more affordable for everyone.

As with other issues, Rensing said the "free-market system seems to always work."

The 41-year-old spent time in Arizona involved in the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps, a border-security group, "helping build the fence that's never going to be built by our government."

He said he supports constitutional Amendment 1 on the ballot, which would make English the official language of government proceedings.

"I think English-only would be a great thing not only for the state but for this country," Rensing said, adding, "I don't think we're at a point right now where we can just be bringing everyone and their brother into our country."

He encouraged Missouri residents to vote for him Nov. 4, because, he said, "I'm not an insider; I'm not entrenched in the system.

"It's time for a third party to step in and get involved."


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Charles Dudley Jr October 28, 2008 | 4:59 a.m.

>>> "I think Medicare or Medicaid is kind of a socialistic program that we're in. If it could be phased out, I'd be more in favor of that." <<<

This is what the Republicans want to do as well so no difference and with views like this I can almost assure you he just lost the vote of the disabled community with in Missouri.

So far as I have seen no other party is for the disabled citizens as much as the Democrats have been. I wish other parties would step up to the plate and offer reasonable policy issues but as a whole I just do not see that coming anytime soon. I myself am a total independent citizen free of any and all party lines,issues and who is focusing on those issues is what drives me in voting. I am not just talking a small group of disabled citizens by far but I am talking about the disabled community as a whole from the very young to the elderly and covering all aspects of the disability issues from birth related to work related to be included.

Medicare and Medicaid are much needed programs for this entire group of citizens mentioned above.

This reminds me of some words Mayor Hindman said about the bus service here in town that was facing budget cuts or increases in fees due to a tight budget he said I will paraphrase here "Some programs you just have to subsidize and those programs are needed as a whole,the question is how much is really needed" to which he is totally correct and the same is for Medicare and Medicaid.

Yes both of these programs need some over hauling and serious policing but there is no need to eliminate them thus pushing even more who live at or below the poverty level onto the already overburdened health care systems.

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Ayn Rand October 28, 2008 | 7:08 a.m.

Medicaid and Social Security pay people who have asthma yet have the lung capacity to smoke pot daily, as well as those who get out of working because they've been diagnosed with ADHD or ODD. Those of us who go to work every day are tied of supporting bums such as those. Time to purge the Medicaid and Social Security rolls of these bums and force those who can work to start carrying their load.

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Charles Dudley Jr October 28, 2008 | 7:47 a.m.

Ayn Rand the percentage of those you mention is small in nature and possibly as little as 1% unless you can come up with a better figure.

I know people with Asthma that do have a hard time being able just to leave their homes so being able to hold a job is out of the question for them.

I also know those who have grave disorders where their ADHD and other like diagnoses who cannot work as well due to their disability prevents them from doing so especially if they have multiple diagnoses.

The same with people with OCD,severe Anxiety and Depression disorders as well who just cannot hold jobs due to their level of disability. They cannot help that Ayn Rand it is the way they are. Yes some would love to be able to work but first you must have employment opportunities they can actually do.

One aspect of this issue as well is employers who will not employ disabled citizens because of the long time stigmas of the liability issues.

Yes there needs to be some reworking of the system I do agree but I assure you there are those on disability that no matter how much medication you put them on just cannot hold jobs that will allow them to make a real substantial income to live on in this economy.

That is where we as disabled citizens hope in the near future that Voc Rehab gets their new program up and running that will actually help disabled citizens to get back to work instead of the mess it has been in the past.

While we are on this Ayn Rand you never did answer my past question of "what is a true disability" and I am still waiting that precise and concise answer from you. I do not forget that easily.

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Ayn Rand October 28, 2008 | 11:37 a.m.

ADHD, OCD, depression, etc. are all in their heads. They need to suck it up and behave. If a person who has those disorders is functioning well enough to spend his or her day on the computer, he or she needs to be out holding a job.

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Charles Dudley Jr October 28, 2008 | 1:09 p.m.

Ayn Rand not in all cases.

You still are not answering my question of "what is a true disability".

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Ray Shapiro October 28, 2008 | 1:44 p.m.

Ayn: I'd like to enlighten you. I suggest that you read the following local blog, from time to time.
http://ccfda.blogspot.com/
The negative assumption you attach to "all in their heads," fails to address that these are all brain disorders, which are an illness. The brain is an organ just like lungs, pancreas and heart. An illness, physical/mental is still an illness and limits each individual differently. If job expectations, requirements, interpersonal and medical needs were a mainstay amongst employers, then there would be more "ill" people employed, but not every physical/mentally ill individual will secure gainful employment. As a humane society we address these limitations beyond the "it's all in your head, suck it up and behave" cure-all.
When you have that cure-all in a bottle and the FDA approves it, you'll be richer than you've ever imagined.
Good luck with the patent...

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Ayn Rand October 28, 2008 | 1:57 p.m.

Ironic that the person who has the time and skills to create that blog will not put those to work.

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Charles Dudley Jr October 28, 2008 | 2:13 p.m.

Ayn Rand how do you really know what work anybody might do from home per say? A home based business is very easy to set up these days giving one all of the time they want to do whatever they want.

How do you know how much volunteer time they might put in seven days a week?

How do you know that person is not on the go with a lap top that is rigged for wireless connections and can manage alot on the go.

I think these are things you over look.

So please tell us Ayn Rand what is the definition in your infinite mind of a true disability. I'm still waiting your presentation on this issue.

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Ayn Rand October 28, 2008 | 2:30 p.m.

The point is that if you can put in that kind of effort, you can do so for a living. So if you're comfortable doing it from home, why not do so and make it a career?

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Charles Dudley Jr October 28, 2008 | 2:53 p.m.

Ayn Rand did I say I do it all from home? No I did not you are putting words into something you do not obviously know about. Your reading comprehension is horrible.

I was referring to any disabled/non disabled person in general in my last posting.

You still fail to answer my last question though of "what is a true disability" and after having many of my disabled friends view your postings on this site they tend to think you are just trolling for sympathy in general.

You have just proven my past points Ayn Rand that you are really here just to stir discontent amongst legitimate posting citizens since you will not even use your real name.

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Glenn Rice October 28, 2008 | 4:20 p.m.

Charles, what do you expect from someone who thinks "ADHD, OCD, depression, etc. are all in their heads"? Anyone with a family member (or themselves) who has suffered from these disorders, knows better. I hope you, "Ayn", never have to deal personally with these "imaginary" disabilities.

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Charles Dudley Jr October 28, 2008 | 5:28 p.m.

I hear ya Glenn Rice I have suffered with the Chinese Alphabet Soup of psych diagnoses all of my life since birth so I for one should know how it is which is why I can stand my ground with these haters,back stabbers and malicious malcontents. You are correct unless you live it or have family who lived it you really do not know.

That is another reason this blog here was born:

http://ccfda.blogspot.com/

My little way of giving back for the things I am privileged to receive.

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Ayn Rand October 29, 2008 | 6:45 a.m.

Charles, do you do ANY work from home? I don't mean volunteering. I mean putting in 40 hours a week for an employer. If not, you ought to be ashamed of yourself. You clearly have the skills and initiative to use a computer, so you need to put those to work instead of making society support you.

I know a guy whose Tourette's did not prevent him from becoming a CPA. And blindness did not prevent Richard Teitelman from becoming a judge.

Glenn, ADHD, etc. are scams. Example: http://psychrights.org/Research/Digest/A....

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Charles Dudley Jr October 29, 2008 | 6:58 a.m.

Ayn Rand what work I do out of my home is between myself and the Government not to be posted across some random blog site.

I do a number of things besides volunteer and being that I have told you I have been disabled since birth you still fail to answer my question of "what is a true disability"?

Also when I did work I paid in my more than fare share into the system in case the day came when I could not work but I and alot of others in my situation are looking for these new programs that will be released soon through Voc Rehab here in Missouri. It is not a guarantee but it is some hope.

I went through Voc Rehab before and after many hours of their endless testing in all of the work related fields I have experience in they "refused" me the grant money to go back to school so I had them forward all of those results to Social Security as a matter of record. All of my case is fully documented by not only my doctor but by Social Security so I need not further explain it all to you.

By all of your posts here you really do have no clue how it is to have disabilities such as you say are all in "peoples heads" and yes they are in "their heads" which impedes their bodies on some form or other of the scale of interaction to hold steady meaningful employment. Yes there are people who can and do get past it all but there are more who cannot. It is not that they do not want to as you claim it is they do not have the capacity to do so and the over use of medication is not the answers either.

So Ayn Rand answer the question what is a true disability?

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Glenn Rice October 29, 2008 | 10:29 a.m.

I just spent a difficult month taking care of a family member with severe depression. For various reasons (none of them very good) she stopped taking the medication that kept her functioning well for years. She was suicidal, unable to work or even leave the house, and spent three weeks in two hospitals. (Your "suck it up and behave" cure just wasn't effective.) She has no insurance and is not on Medicaid, so I'm paying full price for her prescriptions. Tell me "Ayn", who is benefitting from this "scam"? Certainly not me, nor my sister. Maybe big pharma? BTW from a previous post it appears you believe that Tourette's is real -- why don't you think that's "all in the head" as well?

Your "proof" that ADHD is a scam comes from a website with an agenda. Even this website does not claim that depression and other mental illnesses don't exist. In fact, this website's mission is seeking to end the abuses against people diagnosed with mental illness. So you're referencing a source from a group that acknowledges the reality of mental illness by its very existence.

Claim depression and other mental illnesses don't exist all you like, but millions of people and their families know the reality.

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Ayn Rand October 29, 2008 | 10:55 a.m.

I don't feel like working anymore, so I'll just holler some filthy words and make lewd suggestions in public. After all, the diagnosis is based on a physician's assessment rather than hard, visual evidence such as something on an MRI scan, so it's just a matter of finding and fooling the right doctor and case worker.

People who claim to be too depressed to work should be sent to Somalia or India for a few months. Guaranteed they'll come back with a lot to smile about.

Charles, it's clear that you do a number of things besides volunteer: a few blogs, this site, the Trib's site, all of that MMOG stuff. So why can't you put that energy and brainpower into a job?

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Glenn Rice October 29, 2008 | 11:23 a.m.

"People who claim to be too depressed to work should be sent to Somalia or India for a few months. Guaranteed they'll come back with a lot to smile about."

Thanks for your absurd suggestion, but your "guarantee" is as worthless as your medical knowledge. Sounds to me like you have some issues of your own. Good luck!

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Charles Dudley Jr October 29, 2008 | 11:38 a.m.

Ayn Rand why wont you answer my question of "what is a true disability"?

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Charles Dudley Jr October 29, 2008 | 11:39 a.m.

Ayn Rand I also told you I am not going to spill my personal medical problems all over this site.

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Ayn Rand October 29, 2008 | 2:16 p.m.

Why not? You have not hesitated sharing them on other sites, such as the Tribune board. Or are you afraid that, as in http://board.columbiatribune.com/index.p..., people will challenge your claims here, too?

BTW, you posted above that regarding the number of people scamming the system "is small in nature and possibly as little as 1%." But at http://board.columbiatribune.com/index.p..., you said, "there are alot of people abusing the system." So which is it?

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Paul Gilzow October 29, 2008 | 2:30 p.m.

Ayn Rand is a post troll; here solely to invoke other users into an emotional response. when confronted and questioned, s/he never answers the question directly. when asked for sources, s/he responds that the requester should be able to use google. S/he is not interested in true debate, or a civil discussion; s/he simply wants to argue. Of course, this serves no purpose, and does nothing to move us forward.

@Ayn Rand, I'm sorry, but making statements, such as "...OCD, depression, etc. are all in their heads. They need to suck it up and behave", with no basis in fact, and no supporting sources to back up your claim, serve only to show that you are ignorant on this topic. Are you suggesting that legions of people have somehow fooled their doctors, spouses, families, and friends into believing that they have a made up disease, just because they "...don't feel like working anymore"? If so, then I have some land in Florida you might be interested in.

So Ayn Rand, what is your solution for when we "...purge the Medicaid and Social Security rolls of these bums" and they all end up on the street? What are we to do with them then? Ship them off to an island somewhere? Is this the same type of attitude you will have when your parents are old enough that they are no longer able to take care of themselves?

Full disclosure: I suffer from OCD, severe enough that without medication, I would be unable to leave my house. As it is, I am a contributing member of society, hold down a full time job, have two kids with another on the way, volunteer in the community (though not as much as I would like) and am well respected in my industry.

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Justin Hopkins October 29, 2008 | 2:55 p.m.

Paul, I just wanted to point out an apparent typo in your last post. Where you wrote "troll" I believe the proper spelling is "tool".

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Charles Dudley Jr October 29, 2008 | 3:15 p.m.

Ayn Rand you still fail to answer my question of "what is a true disability". Stop dodging the question.

Now if you are truly disabled as you claim to be you would answer this question but I am in agreement with Paul that you are just a "troll" only here to cause discontent since you are too cowardly to reveal your true name here.

I've made my since birth disabilities known enough not only here but on other local boards and I need not prove a dam thing to you.

Answer my question Ayn Rand of "what is a true disability"?

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Ayn Rand October 29, 2008 | 5:20 p.m.

One minute it's "I am not going to spill my personal medical problems all over this site." The next it's "I've made my since birth disabilities known enough not only here but on other local boards."

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Charles Dudley Jr October 29, 2008 | 5:25 p.m.

Ayn Rand >>> Answer my question Ayn Rand of "what is a true disability"?

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Ayn Rand October 29, 2008 | 10:04 p.m.

Chuck, I am stating the real facts as they truly are.

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Charles Dudley Jr October 30, 2008 | 3:15 a.m.

Ayn Rand >>> Answer my question Ayn Rand of "what is a true disability"?

Answer the question you keep dodging it and you are only stating things you have absolutely no clue about.

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Paul Gilzow October 30, 2008 | 8:25 a.m.

@Ayn Rand, unfortunately, you seem to continually mix "opinion" with "fact". You are certainly entitled to your opinion. But please do not state something is a "fact" unless you are able to cite a source for the fact you purport.

And no, saying "go look it up on google" wont work. You are the one claiming questionable statements as "facts". Therefore it is your responsibility to back up those claims with sources.

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Ayn Rand October 30, 2008 | 9:09 a.m.

Paul, whenever I post a link to a site, I hear the whine that either the link is outdated or that it's "a website with an agenda" (Glenn, above). So why should I bother to try to satisfy you? Besides, your opinion is insignificant to me.

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Paul Gilzow October 30, 2008 | 12:04 p.m.

@Ayn Rand, because it is your *responsibility* as the poster to cite sources. That's how it works. I can come here and spout off any statement I want (such as "Ice cream found to cure cancer!") but if I fail to provide a source to back up my claim, then why should anyone take me seriously? Or if I cite a single link to the Ice Cream Makers' Association that discusses a report paid for by the Ice Cream Makers' Association, how many people are going to believe the claim?

As a post troll, EVERYONE's opinion of you is insignificant. That's part of being a post troll.

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Ayn Rand October 30, 2008 | 12:13 p.m.

I don't take you seriously, Paul. I couldn't care less what you think. You're a chronic malcontent. It's a waste of time to argue with such people.

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Glenn Rice October 30, 2008 | 12:22 p.m.

Ahh, the old ad hominem. "Ayn" can't defend his/her own position, so here come the personal attacks.

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Ayn Rand October 30, 2008 | 12:34 p.m.

Nope. Just stating an observation. I'm not like Chuck, who gets all bent out of shape whenever someone questions his posts.

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Charles Dudley Jr October 30, 2008 | 12:47 p.m.

Ayn Rand you still fail to answer my question of "what is a true disability".

Stop dodging the question.

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Laura Hopkins October 30, 2008 | 4:03 p.m.

@Ayn Rand:
Looks like I'll have to split this into two responses as I apparently have more than 3000 characters to post here.
A few things I'd like to add and ask.
You seem adamant about all citizens holding down full time jobs, regardless of disabilities; yet then you go on to personally attack someone *who does exactly that which you claim needs or should be done*.
I quote: "I don't take you seriously, Paul. I couldn't care less what you think. You're a chronic malcontent. It's a waste of time to argue with such people."
???
Could you please elaborate on the logic you employed there?
Because you can't have it both ways: call for people, regardless of disability or disease, to carry their own load, then empirically disregard a perfect example of a person who not only does that but goes above and beyond by volunteering in his community.
And you have yet to even attempt an answer Charles' question of what you think is a true disability. And please don't answer my question with saying what you've already said about ADHD, depression, OCD, etc. being "all in their heads"...this makes you sound like either a L. Ron Hubbard follower or a person lacking basic common sense, because in all actuality these things are all in one's head due to a little thing called "brain chemistry"; but, and this is just a *wild guess*, I'm fairly certain you are entirely ignorant on the subject of Neuroscience.
I'd also like to know, and you don't have to get too personal as this is a public forum, but in basic terms, what incredible and amazing contributions are you making 40 hours a week other than trolling public forums?

Continued below...

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Laura Hopkins October 30, 2008 | 4:05 p.m.

Also, kindly do not use the weak argument that you can't cite sources because "I hear the whine that either the link is outdated or that it's "a website with an agenda" (Glenn, above). So why should I bother to try to satisfy you?" because this A) is actually whining which is ironic because of your statement, and B) renders any argument or opinion you may have as null and void.
It's not about whether or not you find a particular person's opinion significant or not, it's about the ability to effectively and concisely debate your opinions and point of view, then back those opinions up with factual data. It's actually the first rule of any debate.
You seem to enjoy some level of personal satisfaction from pushing a person's emotional buttons, but Paul is right, it's your responsibility to back up what you call "fact" with sources.
I'd also like to concur with Paul on his question of what your ideas are of a solution if Medicaid and Medicare were indeed eradicated?
And I'd also like you to follow up on his question on the attitude you would have when your own parents reach an age when they will no longer be able to care for themselves. Will you take them in and be responsible for all the costs incurred to care for them? What about grandparents? If you have any living grandparents, and their Social Security and Medicare were stripped from them, would YOU yourself pick up the tab where Social Security and Medicare left off? What level of personal sacrifice would you be willing to give to solve the plethora of problems that would ensue once Medicare and Medicaid were gone?
Additionally, what would you personally do to help all the children in need, for instance, who would lose their health benefits if Medicaid were gone?
And of those children, what would you personally do to help ensure that those who are receiving life-saving therapies continue to receive the help they need?
C'mon, game on Ayn Rand; that is, if you really want to play.
I predict you are exactly what Paul pegged you as: someone simply here to argue.
I predict you'll simply attack -me- rather than answer the questions I've posed, and in doing so remove the focus from the -real issues- of this topic.
I predict you lack the mental capabilities necessary to engage in proper and civil debate.

@Justin Hopkins:
Brilliant.
@Paul:
I truly appreciate reading what you've had to say on this forum thread.

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Justin Hopkins October 30, 2008 | 4:25 p.m.

@Ayn Rand
I think you better sit down. You just got pwn3d. Better yet, STALLOWN3D!
http://www.canned-air.net/impreza/stallo...

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Glenn Rice October 30, 2008 | 6:11 p.m.

You think calling someone a "chronic malcontent" isn't an ad hominem attack? Look it up, obviously you don't know what that means.

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Justin Hopkins October 30, 2008 | 10:40 p.m.

Uh oh Glenn. Don't go making an accusation without providing a supporting link! Actually I already blew the whistle on that tricky ad hominem tactic. See the original Gilzow/Ayn Rand post:
http://www.columbiamissourian.com/storie...

I'll just go ahead and quote it again:

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Justin Hopkins October 22, 2008 | 10:10 p.m.

Gilzow FTW!

I'd like to throw in a link I'm fond of. A list of fallacies of logic that debaters are often guilty of when they lack sufficient evidence in support of their argument - this post contains almost every type:
http://www.csun.edu/~dgw61315/fallacies....
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I am curious - after reading the list of comments posted by Ayn Rand:
http://www.columbiamissourian.com/accoun......
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Is this username a reference to Objectivist Ayn Rand?
http://facetsofaynrand.com/arideas/intro......
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I'm glad someone else can spot it too!

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