Columbia man builds and gives away computers on Freecycle

Friday, January 23, 2009 | 1:53 p.m. CST; updated 8:44 p.m. CST, Saturday, January 24, 2009
Jordan Grant builds a computer out of spare parts at his home Oct. 28. Jordan takes donated parts to build working computers that he gives away on the Web site to people who need them.

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COLUMBIA — Jeremy Santiago, 12, sits at the desk in his room; the light from the computer screen illuminates his face. He moves the mouse in his right hand, as math equations start to fall down the screen. Jeremy’s mother, Jeanette Santiago, watches her oldest son intently as he fills in answers to the problems.

Santiago home-schools her four children but until relatively recently hadn't been able to use educational computer games with her curriculum. The Santiagos made trips to the library so the children could use the computers there. “We just couldn’t invest in a computer for the children,” Santiago said.


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In September, Santiago took the unusual step of asking for a free computer. She decided to post a want ad for one on the online network, a global network of local communities where individuals can post items they need or don’t want anymore. The stipulation: Everything is free.

Santiago found the site after looking up “free” on Yahoo. “I’m always interested in finding free stuff, so I joined,” Santiago said.

To her surprise, her post for the computer was answered.

When Jordan Grant saw the Santiagos' ad, he had just what she was looking for. Grant, a software developer for Carfax in Columbia, started building computers as a hobby, after accumulating used parts on Freecycle. “It started that I just noticed that someone put up some nonworking computers. I thought, might as well see what it is 'cause I can do a lot with it. Ended up getting it, and then just asking around on Freecycle for the pieces that I needed — ended up building a working computer, and then just gave it away.”

Growing up, Grant was interested in taking things apart and putting them back together. As a kid, he remembers taking apart his father’s broken camcorder, breaking it down until it was little springs and screws. “I’m sure I thought I was going to memorize it and try to put it back together,” Grant said. He didn’t.

Grant started taking apart and building computers and working with software in high school. He received his first computer as a gift from his grandmother after he graduated, and then started building his own after that. “I would have probably started earlier if my dad would have let me tinker in his computer, but no, it was too much of an investment for him,” Grant said.

Grant said one of the best parts of giving away the computers is seeing kids use them. “I know I was always lucky enough to have a computer around. But (now) I figure I can use what I know to help other people,” he said.

Big effect on family

Across town, Shannon Crossman, an administrative assistant at the Youth Empowerment Zone, couldn’t believe her eyes when she read Grant’s ad for a free computer. “I figured someone would have it before I got to it, and someone did, but they didn’t show,” she said. She explains that sometimes people respond to ads, then never follow through and pick up the items.

This has happened to Grant several times, and he said it’s difficult to decide who should receive the computer. “It’s just kind of a call I’ve got to make on who I think needs it the most,” Grant said. When he came in contact with Crossman, he knew it would serve a need and brought the computer to her house to set it up. It was the first computer he gave away on Freecycle.

“For him to personally be the one to come over and set it up, because of how it’s set up, you know and explain it, too, and be so nice —  not, you know, like he’s giving a handout and, 'Here, be grateful.' His persona wasn’t like that at all,” Crossman said.

The computer had a huge effect on her life. She said she loves seeing her children use the computer at home. Crossman’s two teenage sons use the Internet to go on MySpace and work on music, her 9-year-old daughter likes to write stories and songs to sing at church.

“To see how happy she is afterward, and I think that would be the best," Crossman said about her daughter's success on the computer. "To see that joy on her face, and then to be at church and for her to sing that song that she was able to take the time to do.”

In addition to working at Youth Empowerment Zone, Crossman is the secretary of her church. Without Internet access at home, she felt less productive because she couldn’t receive information from the pastor.

“We’re just getting our church Web site together, you know, so being able to do that communication without having to run up my cell bill or without having to get those stupid prepaid cards for the long distance for the house phones," she said. "It’s so convenient.”

Before Crossman found Grant’s ad, she used library and work computers. Buying one for the home wasn’t an option for her family.

“It’s only four or five hundred bucks at Walmart," she said. "OK, well, let’s go buy a computer — or pay the electric bill, you know, and be able to eat. You know for a lot of us in (the First Ward), that’s how it is.”

Giving back to the community and service has always been a part of Grant’s life. “I believe those ideals come from being an Eagle Scout with the Boy Scouts of America, from being a veteran of the war in Iraq, and from my parents," he said. "I think it’s important to, you know, help people in the community and just make it better.”

Crossman is grateful to Grant for improving her and her family’s life. “I just wanna say God bless him, you know, to have that kind of a heart and that kind of a spirit, that’s very rare nowadays,” she said.

Because he can

Grant said he’ll keep making and giving away free computers as long as it interests him. “One of the ladies had a kid who, you know, had asked, 'Why would someone give a computer away?' and I said just 'cause there’s a lot of technology out there that people will turn their nose up at, or just not want anymore because they can get something that’s better," he said. "And there’s people out there that can just, you know, put it back together as a hobby. When that little girl asked me, it’s well, you know, because I can. It’s kinda' nice.”

When Grant saw the Santiago's ad, he had just given away his second computer on Freecycle. He figured that because they asked for the computer, the family probably had a great need for it. He started building his third one for the Santiago's, tracking down parts he didn’t have. A couple of weeks later, he completed the computer.

Grant also installed the computer for the Santiago's. He told the kids how to find educational games and even came back to fix it after Justin, 10, tried to download something that didn’t work.

“Something happened, and he just came and repaired it,” Santiago said.

Jeremy loves the science games on the computer, especially one that teaches constellations. Santiago says the kids enjoy playing the games much more than listening to her try to explain it. Even the youngest knows how to get on, click on the computer icons and open the games.

“He’s blessed our family with a system, that’s hard to come by,” Santiago said.

The periodic table flashes across the computer screen. Jeremy clicks the mouse and opens another game. Justin gazes over his shoulder and eagerly tells his brother answers to the problems floating down the screen.

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David Karr January 23, 2009 | 9:36 p.m.

Good guy. Keep up the good work, Jordan.

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Charles Dudley Jr January 24, 2009 | 3:26 a.m.

Yea Jordan keep up the great work man! There are not enough of these kinds of computer builders in this nation and we need more. It is nice when you can help somebody to get into a computer or to help keep their computer running who cannot afford too.

That was the only thing I really liked about Bush in the beginning of his Presidency is he wanted to put a computer into every home. I hope Obama keeps that going if at all possible.

There are quite a few people who do this in Columbia/Boone County and it is nice to see one finally recognized for his outstanding work in this field.

Keep up the great work man those smiling faces you see are the best payment anybody can receive as payment.

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John Schultz January 24, 2009 | 8:04 p.m.

Yes, kudos to those who build computers and hand them out, but there's no reason for Bush, Obama, or the government to get involved in this activity, unless they want to cut taxes and make it more affordable for people to buy or give computers.

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Charles Dudley Jr January 25, 2009 | 2:33 a.m.

There are hundreds if not thousands of used good quality used computers dated year 2000 and newer that will run Windows XP Pro that instead of being scrapped could be refurbished and given to families in need.

Dell,Gateway,IBM,Compaq and other companies sell off their used/lease returned computers every year to scrap dealers and to companies over seas for refurbishing. You do not hear about those places lacking computers do you? So why can't our government get involved and put people back to work and sell computers fully refurbished at low prices and provide for free to the people who want them after going through a validation process?

Mizzou sells thousands of older computers yearly at their auction house but alot of times in the past somebody took out the hard drives and all of the ram so they were only good for scrap. I do not know if that has changed or not.

There is no excuse for the obvious waste and not recycling back into communities of these computers except that there might not be people or a organization set up to refurbish them accordingly. This young man just proves that need is there.

Microsoft gives people such as the one above free licenses to put on these types of computers all of the time as long as they show the computers are being given away for free. It is a total tax deductible/charitable donation for them.

If the government got involved at say a "Sheltered Work Shop" setting in doing this type of refurbishing work then it would provide jobs to those at risk citizens who are in need. It does not take a rocket scientist to install an operating system but you do have to know the proper way to do the install or it will not install correctly. There is tone of freeware available that no software would need to be purchased.

I myself have been doing computer refurbishing work since 2000 and usually it is for low income people who just do not want to go to a computer shop due to their pricing of labor costs and their own tight budgeting. I worked and helped manage a shop in this city for over a year and a half and we sold alot of low end computers monthly to those not needing a brand new computer. I left because the owner was not taking the shop in the direction it needed to go.

The market is there and the demand is there too but a fully functional warehouse with stock is also needed too and the people willing to do the work. That takes alot of money.

The computer market in retail and the need of computer techs is flooded right now with many not being able to find work so they do it out of their homes and run their businesses via cell phones and Craigslist. It saves on their over head completely.

The need is there and there is no reason for it not being developed further but it takes people willing to step up and do what needs to be done.

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John Schultz January 25, 2009 | 10:55 a.m.

And the free market and individual citizens and their groups can do it, no need to get a government program setup or use government purchasing to make this kind of work happen. That was the point of my comment.

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Charles Dudley Jr January 25, 2009 | 11:53 a.m.

John Schultz the free market is doing a crappy job as it is in doing anything of this magnitude needed for anybody at all.

Have you actually gone and priced a refurbished computer system as of late? It is not easy for any family to attain after all of their various bills to pay.

That is why a government program on this kind of magnitude is needed to help all families with school age children to be able to get a computer so their children can have a better chance and a better education. Most all of your higher techie jobs require computer knowledge of one form or another at entry levels.

If we wait for "free marketeers" to move it would be in the next century.

You and others might call it "social programming" but others and myself call it "making sure that all kids can get the best educational opportunities they can".

This could also be included under the "educational section" of Obama's stimulus plans.

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John Schultz January 25, 2009 | 1:42 p.m.

Oh, so what you really want is a government handout of computers, as opposed to people freely putting together systems, as Jordan did in this article? Or the city of Columbia passing along older system, as they recently did once again with the Voluntary Action Center? Or the work you say you used to do? Typical Chuck attitude. I'll pass along my old hardware to people who can put it to a better use, rather than waiting for the feds to give a bailout to Dell or HP with my tax dollars. What do you think moves faster, big government or individuals?

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Charles Dudley Jr January 25, 2009 | 2:26 p.m.

John Schultz it is called a "hand up" not a hand out and it is also "total inclusion" rather than total exclusion which is what the man in the article above is doing too only on a smaller scale due to his availability of systems.

With the vast resources of such a program the government also has access to millions of "changed out/lease returned" computers as well that could be easily refurbished and distributed. I saw one such warehouse load of systems the local office of the U.S.D.A. has here in town and was quite amazed. Computer towers both stand up and lay down stalked to the ceilings just sitting there collecting dust. What I could have done for others with all of those systems to rebuild. It is that simple,all of the things needed are there and can be done. All it needs is for somebody to put all of the pieces together.

At one time I even talked to our biggest local computer recycler and a local shop here in town about this project and they really liked it but the over head for such an operation was quite a chunk of change and the store front needed would be at least 1,200 sq feet or more of floor space.

A good tech with everything he needs can refurbish 5 systems a day easily by him or her self comfortably,guaranteed under ideal conditions.

It would also put some people to work as well which this country vastly needs in all of the states you must admit.

What are you against creating jobs for people here at home through government aided programs that can include the handicapped? As I stated it could be done through a "sheltered workshop" type of program easily enough. I myself have trained quite a few citizens locally in computer repair.

It creates jobs even if they are low paying minimum wage full or part time and helps the entire country move more forward than waiting for private enterprise to move which takes far too long in alot of cases.

There is a demand and I guarantee the supply is there. Look at the huge piles of computers M.U. auctions monthly. Most all of those just go to scrap dealers. Very few are actually recycled or refurbished. The vast majority are Dell GX100 systems that can run XP Pro w/SP3 if you boost the ram up to 1 gb.

I highly doubt private sectors can handle it on the scale that is needed being most all higher private corporations outsource all of their work over seas anyhow. So you want to spend the extra expense of shipping over seas and then ship it back again when it can all be done right here at home?

Too many useful computers that can still be used are being scrapped and that scrap being sold over seas to dealers who sell it back to us at inflated prices. That hurts us here at home.

I have thought about this for a very long time and in fact drafted up some details before too. It can be done but it requires the help of the government to keep the constant supply of systems to be refurbished flowing in.

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John Schultz January 25, 2009 | 3:50 p.m.

I'm all for the government donating those computers to organizations, indviduals, etc. that can refurbish them and pass them out to citizens who can put them to rest. I do not believe the government should be buying computers to give to people. Do you agree with those statements and we are just talking past each other?

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Charles Dudley Jr January 25, 2009 | 4:34 p.m.

John Schultz the primary money a.k.a. loans or grants must come from somewhere and some how as well as the guarantee of a steady supply of items/systems for this scale of a project.

Plus on a project of this size and scale you need alot of people if it were to go nation wide. Those people need to be payed too at least a minimum wage/benefits are obviously not going to be available as it is a total non profit adventure.

If it was to be done in each state then systems/items could be harvested from that's state's resources.

Here is the deal. Once the program is up and running you can give away some systems to some families for free or practically for free after they go through a screening process. Just like you go to V.A.C. to get vouchers for items.

V.A.C. would be a great referal outlet for sure but as well the project must bring back in some money to help support itself. It would still be a huge tax write off at the end there is no way around that.

It is not about profit it is about helping people/families and their children's educational needs. This is a must if our nations children are to succeed and advance in this fast paced world we live in.

If you can get the systems donated or practically donated you can build systems besides the ones you give away and sell those systems at ultra low prices with a one year warranty even. I have been involved before in this exact kind of an operation only on a micro scale. It can work I guarantee you.

All of the money taken in goes right back into the main project for distribution as needed. It would be like one huge computer refurbishing warehouse type of business and it does work and computers do sell like this I guarantee you there is a need nation wide.

When I was doing this type of work there were weeks I could not refurbish systems fast enough.

The demand is high for systems that can run XP Pro SP3,1 Ghtz CPU,1 Gb Ram with a CD Burner,2 USB Ports,Floppy Drive,20 GB Hard Drive,Internet Ready with the needed software included(all freely attainable I assure you). That is the rock bottom system requirements kids need so they can do all of their homework and class assignments and this package will run just about any educational software needed including that of any online school courses too.

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Ayn Rand January 25, 2009 | 9:31 p.m.

Chuck, why aren't you doing this for a living?

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Charles Dudley Jr January 26, 2009 | 3:26 a.m.

Ayn Rand learn to read. I have done it in the past and I was volunteering my time helping the guy run his shop being he was on disability too. It was great occupational therapy that got me out of my house and out of my bouts of depression.

It takes money to open your own business of that size and style.

How about you front me $500k and I'll get right on it.

Also the market is flooded with comp techies out of work at this time and alot are doing it out of the trunks of their cars,apartments and storage sheds using their cell phones as their primary communication resources.

You have heard of starving artists well there are starving computer techies too.

Now if such a project as I described above was to actually take off then by all means I would try to be in on the ground floor of it in this area,help manage refurbishing,setting up the needed software for the systems and more.

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Ayn Rand January 26, 2009 | 6:55 a.m.

Chuck, nobody said that you have to start your own business to do this. You could go to work for someone else. Not on a volunteer basis for another volunteer, but as an employee for an employer. And it doesn't have to be a company that makes free computers. It could be any enterprise that needs someone with IT skills.

And if, as you claim, there are so many techies already doing this, why would we need a taxpayer-funded program to create and support something that the free market already created?

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Charles Dudley Jr January 26, 2009 | 7:35 a.m.

The free market is not handling the need even close to the level that is required nor will or can it. There is too much greed in the free market. That is a fact.

Alot of those starving techies are also working other full time jobs because their chosen field they want to be in is flooded right now and has been for some years.

People are greedy for money it makes their lives move forward and it pays their bills they have over taxed/credited themselves upon.

The job market when it comes to comp techies is quite full I assure you and if you are not certified by Mickey Mouse Soft most companies do not want to talk to you.

Though being certified does not guarantee you a job either.

I talked to one certified techie who ended up selling cars for a living. All of that time invested in the comp techie education only to be a car salesman. Go figure.

I'm biding my time and waiting my opportunities and they will come around or they wont. That is how life goes.

The market,need,supplies and opportunity is there but it must be developed on a scale I think most who might post here are not educated on the issue enough to understand. No offense here but if you have not worked in this field how can you really know.

Also I would like to see this market developed where it puts the disabled citizen more back to work in an environment that is conducive to their needs as well of meaningful employment being that full or part time. That might sound exclusive which is normally not my style but if nobody is going to look after "our own" then somebody has to at least try. Yes I like the ideals of the "Sheltered Workshop" for the "At Risk" population.

Keep posting by all means because that is how businesses are developed is through the over all ideas of the collective and consensus points of view.

All of this is just ideas but who knows bigger things going on now in our society have started with ideas just like this one.

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Ayn Rand January 26, 2009 | 7:51 a.m.

The free market also provides brand-new PCs (e.g., the Asus EeePC) for less than $250. People who can't afford that have bigger things to worry about, and plus there's free PC access at the library.

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Charles Dudley Jr January 26, 2009 | 8:10 a.m.

Ayn Rand those $250.00 pc's are just that a $250.00 pc too. No thanks and not even for my aging grandmother if she was still alive today. I would rather refurbish a system instead any day even over buying a brand new system.

The average user does not need a brand new pc to surf email,simple research and basic word processing or creating power point presentations for school projects.

Sure the library has access but that is not the long term key to fixing the ongoing problem.

The solutions I have presented are a dam good start though.

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Ayn Rand January 26, 2009 | 8:46 a.m.

Yeah, those $250-$500 PCs are so crappy that they keep getting four-star reviews and 35 million will be sold this year alone ( ).

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James Herring January 26, 2009 | 9:38 a.m.

Um... back to the story. Thank you Jordan. I am glad to see someone doing something like this for people who need help. Keep up the great work.

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Charles Dudley Jr January 26, 2009 | 9:58 a.m.

Off Topic: Ayn Rand and what are the repair costs and returns that go with those computers including the prices on parts,shipping back and forth to the factory and more. Also the life expectancy.

They are so bad they are just classified as "disposable merchandise" these days. Rather pathetic in a society that is screaming for more green friendly manufacturing isn't it.

How many brand new computers get returned to WalMart,Best Buy,Circuit City and other chain retail stores yearly due to hardware failures? You would be amazed at the numbers.

Better yet the amount of those computers ending up on your free market repair shops only to cost the consumer hundreds of dollars in repair bills over what they payed for that brand new computer at any of the places mentioned above.

Many of the systems I refurbished are still running quite well in their homes today and people often email me or when they see me tell me so too.

I'll personally take a rebuilt/refurbished older system any day over a store bought system. Even a system you build yourself is far better than one you buy in a retail chain store.

Back on topic: I think to what Jordan is doing is awesome and I would love to see it on a huge scale like something that could be done nation wide on the much grander scale of the project.

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Jordan Grant January 26, 2009 | 10:33 a.m.

This is Jordan from the article. I would really like to put some emphasis on the open-source aspect of what I do. I do not think that even charitable donations of Microsoft's Windows XP is a good use of the software. It teaches people to be inflexible and dependent on large software firms to provide the tools to do what they need.

I urge everyone who appreciates what is happening to investigate Linux and open-source alternatives to commercial software. As a software developer, I can tell you that the quality of software that is being released for free these days is on-par with if not better than most commercial solutions. Add in the fact that bugs and features are released quickly and for free, and you have almost no excuse not to switch.

Unless the government wants to setup a system of training to increase employment like the New Deal, I don't believe that it is the government's responsibility to make something like this happen. It is the responsibility of individuals to make their community better and to hold their peers to a higher standard of social responsibility.

Just my 2 cents.

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Grant Venable January 26, 2009 | 10:55 a.m.

Great work!

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Ayn Rand January 26, 2009 | 11:31 a.m.

Chuck, price doesn't always reflect quality. If it did, free things would always be junk.

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Charles Dudley Jr January 26, 2009 | 11:37 a.m.

Jordan Grant I agree on the open source solution for sure as there are alot of Linux Distro's that look and feel just like Windows these days.

There was another guy doing just as you do here in Columbia a year or so back who was getting his software directly donated by MicroSoft on a educational type of grant. I think it was on a developer grant. They gave him so many licenses per anum.

I would just like to see what you are doing in providing these computers be done on a much grander scale across this entire nation. It is a great cause,idea,green friendly and would provide if organized correctly jobs for the disabled too.

Hey nothing wrong with a win/win program and in the words of our Mayor here about one department of our city citizens were complaining about at last year's FY2009 Budget Hearings he said "Something you just have to subsidize" and I highly agree.

Good luck in your project.

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Charles Dudley Jr January 26, 2009 | 11:54 a.m.

Ayn Rand obviously you do not know much about the computer industry do

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Ayn Rand January 26, 2009 | 12:23 p.m.

Chuck, you don't seem to grasp fundamentals such as how increasing hardware volumes lead to decreasing costs. That's one of the reasons why vendors can make cheaper and cheaper PCs.

Besides, if you're so smart, why aren't you making a bundle in IT, or at least doing it for a living?

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Charles Dudley Jr January 26, 2009 | 3:14 p.m.

Ayn Rand you don't understand obviously why those cheap pc's are so cheap.

Do you honestly think when you buy a HP or Compaq Computer at WalMart or any chain store you are actually getting a true 100% HP or Compaq System? Do you really? Keep on buying that junk it makes your free market happy as hell as they sucker you in and rob you blind and makes those free market computer repair shops happier too.

Also why are you so concerned how my money comes in? Your stake in that is like 5 cents a month or less if you really break it down.

Hell you waste more than that if you buy some trivial item at the store that you throw away after using when you could have taken that and fed some poor hungry kid in Ethiopia!

You want me working? You find me a job making $40k a year where I will not be hassled,looked down upon, slandered, ridiculed,exploited and all of the other B.S. that happens to those of us with Developmental Disabilities and I will be glad to join the rest of you loonies in the rat race of society.

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Ayn Rand January 26, 2009 | 3:26 p.m.

Chuck, of course outsourcing is one of the reasons why vendors such as HP can produce sub-$1,000 PCs. But that does not change the fact that another important factor is hardware volumes. In just about every industry, higher volumes mean lower prices. The PC industry is no exception.

Lose the attitude. The tone of your past few posts makes me believe that you did not leave "because the owner was not taking the shop in the direction it needed to go" but rather because of your tendency to ridicule anyone who has a different view on things.

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Mike Bellman January 26, 2009 | 3:57 p.m.

Jordan, do you take any P3 machines? or is that too old for good use?

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Charles Dudley Jr January 26, 2009 | 4:53 p.m.

Ayn Rand you still do not understand but I do not expect you too.

I will drop my 'tude when you get your nose out of my personal life forever.

If the owner of that company had kept going the way the business should have been he would have not lost the two techs who left before I did. I was the last hold out because I was a glutton for punishment.

Oh Mike Bellman if he is using Linux Distro's P3's should handle anything that type unless he is running huge graphical software. That is one thing I do admire about Linux is you can run it off old P3/733'S and up with no worries and only need 512 mb ram.

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Jordan Grant January 26, 2009 | 5:05 p.m.

P3's are blazing fast modern machines compared to what I usually find. I've sent you an email.

In the end, computers are cheaper each year. Not everyone can afford those computers or has the technical know-how to build one themselves. They are a modern convenience and a luxury. Not everyone can bike through the snow to the public library to update their resume.

To the off-topic conversation: Please find another forum in which to air your grievances with each other instead of hijacking this thread.

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Charles Dudley Jr January 26, 2009 | 5:29 p.m.

Jordan Grant I did not intend to hijack your thread. It is a callous ongoing thing of Ayn Rand that the Web Editors allow to be ongoing.

I apologize to you on that matter from my end.

Have you talked to Stan out at Mid West Recycling on Brown Station Road as of late in getting systems to build? He is a really cool guy once you get to know him.

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Jordan Grant January 27, 2009 | 8:46 a.m.

Wasn't aware of the business. Does he frequently have computers to spare?

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Charles Dudley Jr January 27, 2009 | 9:52 a.m.

Jordan Grant yes he often times does. He is a major recycler in this area of all electronics. You can also get on his phone list too.

Often times the local businesses and schools call him when they do their change outs and he picks up those change outs.

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Philip Moore January 28, 2009 | 9:36 a.m.

Jordan, you make me proud to be a fellow Carfax employee. Thanks for all you do. Your story was published on the company intranet so perhaps Yonis and Phil Matthews will keep you in mind the next time we retire some hardware. Keep up the good work.

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