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Neo-Nazi nonsense best ignored

Monday, January 26, 2009 | 12:00 p.m. CST; updated 3:53 p.m. CST, Monday, January 26, 2009

Not every freedom Americans have is listed in the Bill of Rights. Alongside that famous language guaranteeing freedoms of speech and assembly, one does not find rights so basic as that to privacy (or so trivial as that to mow your lawn), but we don’t let that stand as a reason we shouldn’t expect to have them. I think we can all agree that we take most of our rights for granted, one of the less glamorous of which is the right to pick up trash.

Nevertheless, news bells rang out across the country last week when people noticed that the National Socialist Movement, a white separatist group, is taking part in Missouri’s Adopt-A-Highway program along a stretch of road outside of Springfield. The word splashed across all the headlines was “neo-Nazi,” one of those terms that Americans have been trained to immediately follow with internal red flags and furrowed brows, and one which journalists must feel at least doubles the interest value of any story.

The question implied in the subsequent reporting was this: Why did Missouri not reject the National Socialist Movement’s application to be part of the litter prevention program? The answer from the Springfield office of transportation was that the state was not legally able to (due to a court decision that came down after the comparably extreme Ku Klux Klan fought for their right to pick up trash in 2005). But even if the state were legally allowed to reject the National Socialist Movement's application, why should they? Have people actually thought about what it means to be so up in arms over their community service? 

To explain what I’m getting at, I pose a more general question: What don’t we want to happen to groups with radical views? Certainly we don’t want them to feel downtrodden and marginalized enough to justify extreme action. What they’re asking for is relatively little in the scheme of things, and trying to deny them an immaterial right simply gives the group one more complaint to lodge against the country they already feel antagonistic toward. Like it or not, the United States protects their right to have whatever viewpoint they want, unpopular though it may be, and to enjoy the same privileges as every other law-abiding citizen.

By treating the National Socialist Movement's involvement in Adopt-A-Highway as something worth reporting on and objecting to, two much greater problems present themselves. First, it makes them seem perversely glamorous.

Even though the stories are multiplying because the National Socialist Movement's ideals are so abhorred by the American public, how powerful must group members feel when all they have to do to make the news is offer to pick up rubbish four times a year along a small stretch of rural highway? Instead of treating the group as too irrational to be entertained by civilized society, we put them on a "Pedestal of the Fantastically Forbidden" and give them and their ideals more limelight that they could ever pay for.

The corollary is that by having such a knee-jerk reaction to something the National Socialist Movement does, we inadvertently give them a reason to believe they are a threat; we show ourselves worried, as if there were some greater evil to fear from their involvement in such an innocuous act.

Perhaps someone justifying the hubbub might say that to allow a racist group to be involved in a government-run program is to suggest that the state of Missouri endorses their views. That is giving society a shockingly small amount of credit.

On the National Socialist Movement's Web site, one finds the “25 Points” which shape their ideology. The first is that they “demand” the union of all white people into a "greater America." If that weren’t ludicrous enough, in their second point they call for the revocation of the United Nations, the North Atlantic Treaty Organization and the World Bank, among other things.

Can we seriously be worried that people might believe the Missouri government was on board this crazy train because the group’s name appeared on a few hinterland highway signs? The National Socialist Movement might as well be calling for zombies to murder the world’s golden retriever puppies; it’s embarrassing to act as if people who are so laughably radical legitimize the worth of ink it takes to print a story about them.

In short, we all just need to relax and be grateful that the "neo-Nazis" are announcing where they are and what they’re up to. I’d much rather know they’re toiling along a byway than imagine that they’re hatching a hateful and destructive plan in some abandoned shed.

Katy Steinmetz is a columnist and reporter for the Missourian. She moved to Columbia after spending two years teaching in Winchester, England, and one year in Edinburgh, Scotland. She has freelanced for a variety of publications, including 417 Magazine in Springfield, Mo., and the Guardian in London. Katy plans to complete her MU master's degree in 2010.

 


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Ray Shapiro January 27, 2009 | 2:34 p.m.

Katy, I must disagree with you on this one.
If anything, the law should be enforced.
I have read that if any person of said organization has been arrested for a violent crime in the last ten years, the state of MO may deny that group a state-paid advertisement sign. If that law is no longer on the books, than we need to discourage Nazi and KKK affiliated groups from "taking advantage" of "legal" opportunities. That is why we now have "hate crime" laws.
If you haven't read any of this Nazi group's literature about how they feel about taking advantage of "loopholes" in our "free" system, than you need to notice a statement about their "accomplishment" in getting this government supplied sign in Springfield.
http://www.nsm88.org/reports/adopthighwa...
From the site:
We are showing our commitment to cleaning up America by starting right here in our town. NSM Springfield is a part of the solution!
(Any "good Nazi" with half a brain will tell you that "cleaning up America right here in our town" is about removing certain people from America and has nothing to do with cigarette butts and candy wrappers.)
If the State of Missouri does not take steps to prevent advocates of hate crimes from getting state supplied highway advertisements, then we should use these hate groups' tactics as the reason for taking down all state-supplied signs.
Try ignoring the bottom of the page I refer you to.
http://www.nsm88.org/reports/adopthighwa...
Know thy enemy...

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Ray Shapiro January 27, 2009 | 2:53 p.m.

The sham of the Adopt-a-Highway program is that while organizations like the KKK and Nazi groups get State supplied advertisement is that none of these proponents of hate crimes need to ever get their hands dirty on these roads...

http://www.adopt-a-highway.com
Receive thousands of visual impressions every day
Invest in a Cleaner Environment
We provide the Litter Removal
Display your Corporate Good Citizenship 24 hours a day 7 days a week
Adopt-A-Highway Litter Removal Service of America, Inc. has been in business for nearly twenty years. We have provided hundreds of sponsors with excellent service while working with states to develop the Adopt A Highway and Sponsor A Highway Corporate programs. These programs allow your company the chance to be recognized as a company that is concerned with the environment, has civic pride and a sense of community involvement.

***I guess it all has to do with cash flow and never about doing what's just and right.

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Ray Shapiro January 27, 2009 | 3:28 p.m.

Some comments from a Springfield,Missouri thread...

1. Freedom of Speech is one thing. Being a good civic organization is another. Taking advantage of cheap, government advertisement and implyed endorsement of a known group of hate crimers is offensive. This adopt-a-highway/get a government sign program should be shut down as the laws don't protect common,descent folks who use these roads. This is just a Nazi ploy to get some P.R. The State of Missouri should be ashamed of itself for allowing this to continue. Just take all the signs down.
2. Wow what good christians... Unreal... Just shows how backward Springfield and SWMO is... Allowing a racist group that is non christian and non political to spread hate... I just hope as years pass on this will grow nonexistence so my children don't have to deal with uneducated hatful idiots.... and we are white!!!

3... what if the state devised a system where only non-violent offenders and community service folks were the ones responsible for picking up the trash?

4. Only a traitor to the country would cheer for a group emulating the Nazis or idolizing Hitler. Almost a half a million Americans died fighting the Nazis, their allies, and their ideologies. NSM and everything they represent is treasonous to say the least. The neo-Nazi movement is a slap in the face to all who have worn the uniform (former Marine myself)or flown the American flag.

http://www.ky3.com/news/local/38147664.h...

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Ray Shapiro January 27, 2009 | 7:51 p.m.

Know thy enemy...

Extremism in America

NSM calls for a "greater America" that would deny citizenship to Jews, nonwhites, and homosexuals.

Leader: Jeff Schoep
Headquarters: Detroit, Michigan
Founded: 1974 by Robert Brannen and Clifford Herrington
Business ventures: NSM88 Records, NSM88 Radio, videogames
Publications: N.S.M. Magazine, local chapter bulletins
Other activities: Literature distributions, conferences and rallies, Internet forums and blogs
Ideology: Neo-Nazi; NSM calls for a "greater America" that would deny citizenship to Jews, nonwhites, and homosexuals.
Composition: Mostly young, including racist skinheads; the group also has older holdovers from George Lincoln Rockwell's American Nazi Party of the 1960s.
Affiliations: Ties with various Klan groups, racist skinheads and other neo-Nazi organizations
Significance: One of the most explicitly "Nazi-like" neo-Nazi groups, emulating the uniforms and paraphernalia of the Third Reich. It has a vaguely paramilitary structure, with military ranks for its members.

The NSM promotes its virulently anti-Semitic and racist ideology at rallies throughout the country, particularly in the Midwest, and through the group’s Website, Internet-based radio programs, white power music company and videogames. While some neo-Nazi groups prefer blazers to brown shirts, this Minneapolis-based hate group is a throwback to the 1960s-era American Nazi Party, from which it descended; members wear Nazi uniforms and openly display swastikas to a degree unusual even among white supremacists. This explicit Nazi imagery apparently has not hurt its stature or standing on the racist right.
Since 2006, the NSM has grown considerably in membership and influence, with dozens of chapters across the country. Part of the reason for the group's growth has been its appeal to racist skinheads and other young white supremacists who join in NSM activities ranging from recruitment to rallies to literature distributions. Though the NSM has grown, the group also experienced setbacks. In June 2006 and again in fall 2007, internal bickering resulted in the loss of key members. Some of these members formed their own small factions, taking followers with them. Despite these reverses, the NSM attempted to maintain its status by holding a number of rallies focusing mostly on immigration and by purchasing a white supremacist social networking Website, New Saxon, in spring 2007. The NSM also continues to promote its online radio shows and its white power music company, NSM88 Records.

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Ray Shapiro January 27, 2009 | 7:53 p.m.

The National Socialist Movement

Criminal Activity

In 2006, a number of National Socialist Movement (NSM) members were involved in criminal activity, including one murder.

David Ryan Drake, 20, was convicted on January 18, 2007, in Maricopa County Superior Court, of one count of manslaughter. Drake was found guilty of killing David M. Scarano on June 6, 2006, during a party in Cave Creek, Arizona. According to court documents, Drake, a self-proclaimed member of the NSM, arrived at the party in his storm trooper uniform, and Scarano, who was Hispanic, took exception to Drake’s blatant display of white supremacy. Scarano made some comments and a fight between the two ensued. While they were on the ground, Drake’s Nazi armband fell to the ground and Scarano stepped on it. Drake then took out a six-inch Nazi dagger and stabbed Scarano in the abdomen, while shouting racial slurs.

Kenneth Lee Krauss (Crouse) of Berryville, Virginia, was arrested on weapons charges in Harpers Ferry, West Virginia, on August 19, 2006. Krauss, a “Corporal” in the NSM, runs the group’s northern Virginia Website. Police pulled him over after he was allegedly driving erratically following a Klan gathering at a Harpers Ferry community event. Police reportedly found a loaded, concealed weapon, a machete, and several other knives in his vehicle.

Daniel Benson, of Spokane, Washington, and Ervin Stradley, of Libby, Montana, pleaded guilty in late July 2006 to disorderly conduct and causing a public nuisance for yelling racial slurs at a white woman and her two, part-Native American children while they were sitting in their car at a red light. Both Benson and Stradley are members of the NSM. According to Libby police, Benson and Roland were originally charged with malicious intimidation (a hate-motivated felony), harassment, disorderly conduct, and assault stemming from the incident. As part of a plea agreement the most serious charges were dropped, their sentences suspended, and both were released from jail. Stradley had served nineteen days in jail since his arrest on July 1, and Benson had served twenty-three days.

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Ray Shapiro January 27, 2009 | 8:08 p.m.

Tactics
Over the years, the National Socialist Movement (NSM) has displayed a growing ability to attract media coverage of the organization’s activities. One element which draws media attention is the group’s penchant for wearing swastika-adorned Third Reich-themed uniforms and carrying banners reminiscent of Nazi rallies. The group targets rallies to specific issues and against specific groups which are in the news. In this way, the media comes out to cover a story related to a current hot topic and the frequent counter-protests are very emotionally charged.

Local NSM chapters also plan regular literature distributions. The group has averaged about one significant flier distribution per month in 2006 and 2007.

Young people have always been a fertile demographic market for extremist groups’ recruitment efforts. As with other marketing efforts geared towards young people, the NSM is relying heavily on the Internet. The NSM’s Internet efforts include music, videos, games, news feeds, email lists and a social-networking Website.

In December 2006, the NSM announced that it had created an expanded and enhanced version of an earlier game, "Zog's Nightmare." [ZOG stands for Zionist Occupied Government, which refers to the belief that the Jews occupy and control the government, as well as the media.] To play the game, individuals have to make their way through a series of levels within a city populated by "inferior" races, where the player is being hunted by a police agency that has been taken over by Jews. The purpose of the game, according to the NSM, is "to liquidate all the non-white invaders and purify the NSM Party headquarters." A new updated version, “Zog's Nightmare II," was released at the NSM's April 2007 national meeting in Laurens, South Carolina.

NSM88 Records is the group’s retail Website. In addition to neo-Nazi, NSM and white supremacist clothing, jewelry and other paraphernalia, NSM88 Records has a catalog with over 700 CDs and 80 video titles. Associated with NSM88 Records is NSM88Radio, the NSM’s Internet radio Website. NSM88Radio features 24 hour-a-day audio, a weekly NSM hosted show “NSM Presents,” a music show and two regularly scheduled talk shows.

In spring 2007, the NSM purchased the New Saxon social-networking Website, which promotes itself as “an online community for Whites by Whites.” Though not as feature friendly as mainstream sites, it remains popular with white supremacists and provides a way for the NSM to recruit new members.

YouTube has also been a useful propaganda vehicle for the NSM and its members. The NSM posts rally footage and NSM members produce and post their own propaganda videos. There are on average of 50 NSM related videos on YouTube at any one time.
Source for my three above posts:
AntiDefamation League website...

http://www.adl.org/

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Ricky Gurley January 27, 2009 | 11:52 p.m.

Katy is CORRECT! She has viewed this issue INTELLIGENTLY, DISPASSIONATELY, and with COMMON SENSE and REASON!

No harm in letting this group be trash men!

They are asking to do a good deed for the community, let them!

If they have done all of the "harm" that you believe, Ray (and I am NOT disagreeing with you that they have done some "harm", by the way), then it seems to me that it is even more important to let them make reparations, even if it is in the form of picking up trash for the community, and that is not actually their intent; to make reparations for the misdeeds they may have done, that is.....

Rick.

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Ray Shapiro January 28, 2009 | 12:51 a.m.

I'd like to see them make reparations by disbanding their circus and disposing of their costumes.
It's still O.K. to hate the haters, isn't it?

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Charles Dudley Jr January 28, 2009 | 2:58 a.m.

ray shapiro has shown the documented proof view news stories of this groups behaviors in the past. Sure it might be nice they are grandstanding picking up trash but it is just a facade IMHO and I am sure in the opinions of alot of other citizens.

Would you want any of them to be "Big Sisters or Big Brothers" to your at risk impressionable children or any children for that manner?

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Ricky Gurley January 28, 2009 | 3:57 a.m.
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Mark Foecking January 28, 2009 | 9:05 a.m.

Um, how many white supremecists have any of you known in your lives? This is a vanishingly small fringe of society that most people just ignore. The more we ignore them, the less publicity they will get.

DK

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Ricky Gurley January 28, 2009 | 10:22 a.m.

Mark Foecking January 28, 2009 | 9:05 a.m.

Um, how many white supremecists have any of you known in your lives? This is a vanishingly small fringe of society that most people just ignore. The more we ignore them, the less publicity they will get.

DK
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EXCELLENT Point, DK! And the point that I think Katy was trying to make too...

Rick.

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Charles Dudley Jr January 28, 2009 | 10:53 a.m.

Nobody has answered my question:

Would you want any of them to be "Big Sisters or Big Brothers" to your at risk impressionable children or any children for that manner?

Still waiting...............................

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Ricky Gurley January 28, 2009 | 11:06 a.m.

Charles Dudley Jr January 28, 2009 | 10:53 a.m.

Nobody has answered my question:

Would you want any of them to be "Big Sisters or Big Brothers" to your at risk impressionable children or any children for that manner?

Still waiting...............................
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There is a VAST difference between letting them mentor a child and letting them pick up trash on the side of the road....

In other words, your question is irrelevant to the context of this particular topic.....

Rick.

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Ray Shapiro January 28, 2009 | 11:07 a.m.

DK:
Hitler was ignored for quite some time. In fact, you might say that appeasement helped make his Nazi movement stronger.
(The word "appeasement" has been used as a synonym for cowardice since the 1930s.)
The KKK was ignored by law officials in certain regions of our country for quite some time. It wasn't until people outed them for their hate crimes that our politicians took action against them.
Hate groups such as this Nazi group, the Klan and others will use symbolism and fear as a tactic. I do not fear them, I choose to take whatever productive action I can against them.
When I am reminded by media coverage or encounter anti-semitic sentiment or reminded of my own personal demons of bigotry, I can thank these hate groups for reminding me just how insidious organized collective racism can actually become.
I choose vigilance.
You can choose to hide in your lab and ignore some socio-political realities. I choose to do whatever I can to out these facists.
It's still a free country,
And personally, I have never befriended a person I knew to be a member of the Klan or Nazi-type movement. That's not to say that I've never known people who would make good camdidates for these extremist groups.
And as our economy gets worse, before better, and considering that we now have a black president in the White House, I believe that we need to be even more aware and vigilant on how the NSM may sway public opinion during the next 4 years.
Know thy enemy.

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Eric Cox January 28, 2009 | 11:22 a.m.

Big Brothers Big Sisters is a private organization and Adopt a Highway is a government program so the same rules don't apply. The first amendment says free speech shall not be abridged, so if these idiots want to pick up trash and the state is making signs for other organizations then their beliefs should not be an issue however distasteful you find it to be.

And "hate crime" is the stupidest thing I have ever heard, it should be the act that is criminal, hate/personal prejudice may be the motivation for the criminal act but that should really only matter to the court system when they establish guilt.

There are plenty of hate groups out there and they can all pick up trash as far as I'm concerned.

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Charles Dudley Jr January 28, 2009 | 11:29 a.m.

Nothing is ever irrelevant by far as it all contributes to the over all point of view unless you yourself only look at the world from the bottom of a glass every night.

Eric I agree let them all pick up trash but I also agree with ray in they can leave the clown costumes at home.

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Ricky Gurley January 28, 2009 | 12:04 p.m.

Eric Cox January 28, 2009 | 11:22 a.m.

Big Brothers Big Sisters is a private organization and Adopt a Highway is a government program so the same rules don't apply. The first amendment says free speech shall not be abridged, so if these idiots want to pick up trash and the state is making signs for other organizations then their beliefs should not be an issue however distasteful you find it to be.

And "hate crime" is the stupidest thing I have ever heard, it should be the act that is criminal, hate/personal prejudice may be the motivation for the criminal act but that should really only matter to the court system when they establish guilt.

There are plenty of hate groups out there and they can all pick up trash as far as I'm concerned.
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GREAT point, Eric! People have to learn to put their petty emotions aside, and be logical and intelligent.

Rick.

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Ray Shapiro January 28, 2009 | 12:27 p.m.

Eric:
I hope someday you can see beyond the tip of your nose...

...the national hate crime program collect details about an offender’s bias motivation associated with the following offense types: murder and nonnegligent manslaughter, forcible rape, aggravated assault, simple assault, intimidation, robbery, burglary, larceny-theft, motor vehicle theft, arson, and destruction/damage/vandalism of property.

{In 2006, a number of National Socialist Movement (NSM) members were involved in criminal activity, including one murder.

According to court documents, Drake, a self-proclaimed member of the NSM, arrived at the party in his storm trooper uniform, and Scarano, who was Hispanic, took exception to Drake’s blatant display of white supremacy. Scarano made some comments and a fight between the two ensued. While they were on the ground, Drake’s Nazi armband fell to the ground and Scarano stepped on it. Drake then took out a six-inch Nazi dagger and stabbed Scarano in the abdomen, while shouting racial slurs.

Kenneth Lee Krauss (Crouse) of Berryville, Virginia, was arrested on weapons charges in Harpers Ferry, West Virginia, on August 19, 2006. Krauss, a “Corporal” in the NSM, runs the group’s northern Virginia Website. Police pulled him over after he was allegedly driving erratically following a Klan gathering at a Harpers Ferry community event. Police reportedly found a loaded, concealed weapon, a machete, and several other knives in his vehicle.

Daniel Benson, of Spokane, Washington, and Ervin Stradley, of Libby, Montana, pleaded guilty in late July 2006 to disorderly conduct and causing a public nuisance for yelling racial slurs at a white woman and her two, part-Native American children while they were sitting in their car at a red light. Both Benson and Stradley are members of the NSM. According to Libby police, Benson and Roland were originally charged with malicious intimidation (a hate-motivated felony), harassment, disorderly conduct, and assault stemming from the incident.}
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Laws and the manner in which programs are administered, such as this Adopt-a-Highway/Money for government supplied advertisement, can be changed to protect blacks, jews and others from Nazi propaganda and apparent public endorsement. (I see no disclaimer on these government supplied signs, do you?)
In fact, at one time the state could reject applications for the program from groups that denied membership based on race or had a history of violence. A different law could replace that one or the state could just take down all the signs.
I say use our laws, programs and court system to make it more difficult for these clowns to get what they want.
(Refer to their idealogy in past post and you tell me if you want to "grease the skids" for them?)

http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius_04/offenses_......

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Mark Foecking January 28, 2009 | 12:32 p.m.

Ray:

Hitler was considered a great man until he annexed Austria. He brought Germany back from a the brink of collapse and turned it into a world power in less than a decade. He was the 1936 Life Magazine Man of the Year. No one ignored him - it was just that his real intentions were not yet clear.

Law enforcement groups here and there tolerated the Klan because they basically agreed with them. It hasn't been that long since lynching was a perfectly acceptable way to deal with a suspected criminal (or just an uppity n****r). People didn't out them - the government made their activities more and more illegal until the lynchings and other harassment stopped.

Wer're a very different country today. Most people are truly disgusted with the idea of white supremacy. What better way to make sure their movement fades into history but to ignore them?

DK

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Ricky Gurley January 28, 2009 | 1:13 p.m.

Emotional reactions are the enemy of intelligent solutions.....

Rick

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Ray Shapiro January 28, 2009 | 1:17 p.m.

DK:
Sometimes symantics gets in the way of communicating one's ideas. Probably even more so on-line.
I have taken exception to the concept of ignoring the Nazi agenda as I have viewed the word "ignore" in a more antiquated interpetation. I checked with the old dictionary to discover:
"obsolete ignore to be ignorant of, from French ignorer, from Latin ignorare, from ignarus ignorant, unknown, from in- + gnoscere, noscere to know — more at know

(Newer usage):
1 : to refuse to take notice of
2 : to reject (a bill of indictment)

As I interpet "ignore" as self-imposed ignorance, my stance is sound. I resent people telling me to be ignorant.
(As in pay no attention to that man behind the curtain...Oz)

Newer usage definition number one also puts me in a room with a Nazi Jackal, something this New York Christian Jew finds hard to do.
As far as the second definition of "ignore" which advocates to reject (a bill of indictment), Whie I might go for that interpetation of ignore. I do not see that rejection of idealogy concet vs. Adopt-a-Highway/get a government sign program as a big enough concern here. NSM is obviously gloating about it, at our expense.
To be unresponsive, uneducated, unaware, uncaring or caught with my guard down is not an option.
I rarely use this word, but "complacency" on this subject is just not the tone I will accept for myself.

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Ray Shapiro January 28, 2009 | 1:23 p.m.

Emotional reactions are the enemy of intelligent solutions.....

Rick

Knowledge + Life Experiences + Intuition = Wisdom

Ray

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Ricky Gurley January 28, 2009 | 1:45 p.m.

ray shapiro January 28, 2009 | 1:23 p.m.

Knowledge + Life Experiences + Intuition = Wisdom

Ray
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Now here is my honest opinion on this formula, Ray.

Knowledge (always good) + Life Experiences (which could cause emotions that make us "reactionary") + intuition (which is not always right, and is mainly a matter of how we "FEEL") = A Recipe For Disaster...

Rick.

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Ray Shapiro January 28, 2009 | 2:09 p.m.

Rickmeister:
Thanks a lot for making me cite the dictionary, as my "off-the-top-of-my-head" formula has been challenged.
This one is from the free encyclopedia, so it didn't cost me anything, except my time...
Wisdom
From Wikipedia
Personification of wisdom (in Greek, "Σοφία" or "Sophia") at the Celsus Library in Ephesus, Turkey.Wisdom is knowledge, understanding, experience, discretion, and intuitive understanding, along with a capacity to apply these qualities well towards finding solutions to problems. It is the judicious and purposeful application of knowledge that is valued in society. To some extent the terms wisdom and intelligence have similar and overlapping meanings. The status of wisdom or prudence as a virtue is recognized in cultural, philosophical and religious sources.
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I humbly apologize for sharing an abbreviated, self-made formula in response to your comment on emotions.

-Ray S.

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Roger Grant January 28, 2009 | 6:32 p.m.

What didn't get printed and should have was the NSM Commander (Jeff Schoep) is a convicted criminal and that alone should have disqualified the National Socialist Movement from participating in picking up trash. Jeff Schoep also abandoned his wife and children in Minnesota and is considered a fraud by most White racialists in America. The local leader of the NSM in Missouri is a former bank robber named Steve Boswell. Another good reason to disqualify the NSM.

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Ray Shapiro January 29, 2009 | 2:33 a.m.

Here's your sign...

{"Some have joined the anti-immigrant vigilante movement, committing drive-by shootings of Mexican labourers. Others are scattered around doing their own thing: picking fights in bars, beating up gay men. Some are clearly being brought out of the dark corners by the prospect of an African-American man as president. That's the case with the subject of our video, the National Socialist Movement's Steven Boswell, who talked to us in Columbia, Missouri."}
Source:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/uselecti...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKvPS_FaR...

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RW B January 29, 2009 | 12:40 p.m.

The NationalSocialistMovement pick up the trash. What a crime... Why don't you write about Israel, how they killing Palestian children and women? Why Israel bombed hospitals, schools, universities, graveyards? Why they killed animals?
http://chet-justice.blogspot.com/2009/01...
http://www.gulfnews.com/gntv/videos/1027...

Do you really think cleaning up a highway is a crime? Or a hatecrime?

"Any "good Nazi" with half a brain will tell you that "cleaning up America right here in our town" is about removing certain people from America"

Or removing the corruption and crime. Don't manipulate the people. Thank you.

"just hope as years pass on this will grow nonexistence so my children don't have to deal with uneducated hatful idiots..."

What means "uneducated hatful idiot"?

Can you tell me why do you copy/paste your texts? I think this is the so called "trolling".

The NSM is a political party, it's all. They are against the Middle East war too. I guess that's why the media hates them.

"Zog's Nightmare" video game? Why don't you talk about the Call of Duty series? Do you think killing Germans is ok?

"Hitler was ignored for quite some time." Why don't you talk about the Israeli aggression? They are ignored, and they attacked Lebanon in 2006, and now they killed 1300 civilians in Gaza. Sounds more serious than people, who cleaning a highway.

You just attacking little people, when really big problems all around the country, and all around the world. If you want, just adopt a highway, and can pick up the trash, just like the NSM members. Maybe easier to hate them, because they doing that job, but if you want to do something good, just adopt a highway, Mr. Shapiro. Why I think you are somekind of a "human right activist" and you get big money when you attack white groups?

Did you ever protested against the Black Panthers, ADL, NAACP, Nation of Islam, JDL, AIPAC, or other anti-American groups?

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Ray Shapiro January 29, 2009 | 1:18 p.m.

RW B
It's not about money.
It's about the truth, as I see it.
I live by my opinions. My opinions can be changed.
You have failed to change any of my opinions about the NSM.
-Ray S.

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Mike Bradley January 29, 2009 | 2:42 p.m.
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Charles Dudley Jr January 29, 2009 | 3:42 p.m.

Nobody should ever support some organization that advocates racial,gender,cultural,religious prejudice and discrimination on any scale of society and that is exactly what the NSM does.

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Lisha Kraft February 9, 2009 | 11:44 a.m.

"He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it. He who accepts evil without protesting against it is really cooperating with it."
Martin Luther King, Jr.

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