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Anderson leaves Mizzou to become Arkansas men's basketball coach

Wednesday, March 23, 2011 | 8:38 p.m. CDT; updated 4:24 p.m. CDT, Thursday, March 24, 2011
Mike Anderson, most recently head coach of the Missouri men's basketball team, has accepted the head coaching position at the University of Arkansas. Anderson went 111-57 overall in his time with the Tigers.

COLUMBIA — The Mike Anderson era at MU ended Wednesday with Anderson accepting the head men’s basketball coaching position at the University of Arkansas.

After leading the Tigers for five seasons at Missouri, Anderson decided to return to the school where he was an assistant for 17 seasons. The Razorbacks announced the move Wednesday night on the program's website shortly before MU Athletics Director Mike Alden announced Anderson's decision at a news conference at Mizzou Arena. 

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"I want to talk about the job that Mike Anderson and his staff have done here at the University of Missouri, which has been an outstanding job," Alden said. "We've been blessed that he has been with us for the past five years."

Alden said he learned at 6:45 p.m. Wednesday that Anderson was resigning.

Alden said that until Tuesday afternoon, he felt as if MU and Anderson were working toward a contract extension and had spoken in person to him about it as recently as March 16 in Washington, D.C. But shortly after 5 p.m. Tuesday, Alden said he received a telephone call letting him know there was a request from Anderson’s agent, Jimmy Sexton, asking for permission for Anderson to speak with Arkansas.

“At 9:15 last night, coach and I had the opportunity to talk, and we did talk about that request he made,” Alden said. “He wanted to talk to me, hoping that we would grant him permission to talk with another institution. I asked him to sleep on it and we could talk about it tomorrow.

“At 12:30 this afternoon, the chancellor and myself visited with coach Anderson on a conference call and at that time, he asked us directly for permission to talk with another institution. We talked for about 20 to 30 minutes, various issues and things, and we granted that permission.”

It was at that time that Alden said he told Anderson that, if Anderson does speak with Arkansas, than any potential contract extension offers with Missouri would be terminated.

Alden said that at 6:20 Wednesday evening, Anderson called him, asking to speak with him in his office. It was at then that Anderson told him he would be resigning from his position as the Missouri men’s basketball coach and taking the job at Arkansas.

The St. Louis Post Dispatch reported Tuesday that MU agreed on a contract extension for Anderson that – if it were to be agreed upon by the university curators – would have increased Anderson’s salary from close to $1.5 million to about $2 million and added two years to his current contract (making it valid through 2018).

According to reports from Arkansas media outlets, the contract Anderson accepted stipulates that he will receive $2.2 million per year for seven years, which will mark about a $650,000 increase over his 2010-11 salary at Missouri.

Anderson did not attend the news conference, but Missouri players Marcus Denmon, Kim English and Laurence Bowers sat at the podium with Alden. Anderson spoken with his players at a 7 p.m. team meeting Wednesday at Mizzou Arena then left the stadium.

The Tigers players spoke fondly of their former coach. They said Anderson told them that the call home was too strong to resist.

"I don't feel Coach Anderson would have left here for any place other than Arkansas," Denmon said.

Arkansas dismissed its coach, John Pelphrey, on March 13 after he led the Razorbacks to an 18-13 record and a ninth-place finish in the SEC. Speculation about Pelphrey’s replacement began almost immediately.

Anderson, who was an assistant coach at Arkansas under Nolan Richardson from 1985 to 2002, was mentioned as a candidate for the position, but he reaffirmed his commitment to Missouri on March 4 and again on March 17 after the team’s loss to Cincinnati.

“I’m excited about what’s taking place at Missouri, and I plan on being at Missouri,” Anderson said. “That’s the bottom line.”

Anderson, who was hired in 2006, went 111-57 in his time with the Tigers and brought the team to the NCAA tournament for the past three years. It advanced to the Elite Eight in 2009 but lost in the second round in 2010 and in first round this season.

Before coming to Missouri, Anderson was 89-41 in four seasons at Alabama-Birmingham. Anderson was hired at UAB after being part of three Final Four trips with the Razorbacks as Richardson's assistant, including when they won the national championship over Duke in 1994 and finished as runners-up to UCLA a year later.

Following Richardson's firing in 2002, Anderson served as Arkansas' interim coach for two games. He then interviewed for the position before being passed over in favor of Stan Heath.

Heath lasted five years at Arkansas, finishing 82-71. He led the school to back-to-back NCAA appearances in his final two seasons in 2006 and 2007, but he failed to unite the fans in the wake of Richardson's firing and the subsequent discrimination lawsuit he filed over his departure.

Pelphrey struggled to do the same in his four years with the Razorbacks, with attendance in the 19,200-seat Bud Walton Arena falling to its lowest levels since the building opened. The Razorbacks averaged 17,148 in his first season and steadily fell until averaging 12,022 this season.

During its national championship season of 1993-94, Arkansas averaged 20,134. This season, the school drew a season-high 14,174 for its game against Mississippi in February.

Pelphrey finished 69-59 with the Razorbacks, though he did sign one of the top recruiting classes in the country last fall.

— Missourian reporters Joan Niesen, Nick Forrester, Ben Frederickson and The Associated Press contributed.


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nancy brown March 24, 2011 | 1:00 a.m.

Its nice to see the Anderson as a Arkansas men's basketball coach.I think you will be the key for the University of Arkansas. I like your activeness,thinking,and I love your game plan.Thank you.
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Ellis Smith March 24, 2011 | 5:36 a.m.

So, another NCAA Division I basketball coach changes jobs. That's news, and needs to be reported as such, but maybe perspective is needed.

Suppose, for the the of discussion, some maniac walks onto the MU campus and slaughters several academic faculty members. Several of the victims are Curator's Professors. Some of the victims are key university research people.

That would be a TRAGEDY, not only for the victims and their families and for the academic community at MU but for the entire university system and for the state, and for the specific academic professions which those professors represented. It would be not any less of a tragedy if the slaughter occurred at MS&T, UMKC or UMSL. (At least two of our four campuses have both national and international credibility in scientific and technical research.)

In the present instance, with the basketball coach, no one has been criminally assaulted or physically wounded or has died.

It's only another routine circumstance in a non-academic world called NCAA Division I. It happens regularly, except this time it happened here.

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Layton Light March 24, 2011 | 6:16 a.m.

While I’m grateful to CMA for the job he did sweeping away the pile of garbage Quinn Snyder left, I can’t help but feel a little cynical about his behavior since he’s been here. This is the third time he’s held up Mizzou for more money. It happened virtually every time a Division I school had a coaching vacancy. All Alden did was say, “Enough.” I commend him for that. It would have been interesting to see what Anderson would have done if MU had upped their offer to 2.2 million for seven years. I don’t think the “pull toward home” would have been quite as strong. He’d probably still be at Mizzou talking about being “a Tiger for life.”

I am also a little tired of the idea in college sports that contracts aren’t worth anything more than the paper they’re printed on. All we ever heard Anderson talk about was how he was teaching his kids about values and integrity, etc. In the end, all he taught them was that promises, obligations, your word, even your signature on a contract mean nothing. The only thing that matters is getting what you want, when you want it. He should have gone to Michigan State. At least their school color is green.

And Ellis, settle down. We all know how important academics are to colleges and universities. Taking it to the level of comparing it to violence upon someone on a college campus is a bit over the top. That’s the kind of thing that gets you put on lists of people that government agencies like to check up on. And rightly so.

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Michael Williams March 24, 2011 | 8:59 a.m.

Whatever happened to "honor"?

Whatever happened to "truth"?

Whatever happened to both sides of a contract keeping their word?

Whatever happened to "shame"?
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Layton: I think Ellis was simply contrasting a real "tragedy" from Anderson leaving. Simply put, this isn't a tragedy.

It is, however, a fine example of a less-than-honorable man.
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Let's quit the rat-race. Let's only hire coaches who are an alumnus of MU and were born in this state. Let's also not pay more than the president of the University. Let's make contracts VERY expensive to get out of.....in fact, let's get rid of contracts altogether. Why should coaches have contracts? All of you reading this....do YOU have a contract to work at your job???????

It might hurt the programs, but sheesh....there's lots to be said for being honorable and bucking the trend. Heck, perhaps we'd even start a new trend.

If...if...if...only universities would get big sets of cajones. They DO have the abilities to say "NO!"

So do fans.

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Ellis Smith March 24, 2011 | 9:34 a.m.

@ Michael Williams:

Your interpretation of my post is correct.

Consider these institutions of higher learning: University of Chicago, Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Johns Hopkins University, California Institute of Technology. All four, and a fair number of other top academic institutions, are NCAA members. What division do they play in? How many athletic scholarships do they award?

We might all be surprised as to what government lists -secret, or accessible to the public - we are already on. Some lists seem honorable: lists of those who served voluntarily in the military, for example.

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Ricky Gurley March 24, 2011 | 9:46 a.m.

Why does ANYONE care?

Anderson had a contract with MU, not any of you. If MU is not willing to enforce their contract with Anderson; then there is no "broken contract". Both parties consented to Anderson leaving. That is how a contract works.

There is a "meeting of the minds", consideration, offer, and acceptance. Seems to me like the two parties to the contract both decided to amend the contract voluntarily and of their own volition after a "meeting of the minds". There is nothing wrong with that. It happens all of the time.

No dishonor here. No "non-truths" here. Both sides DID keep their word. No shame at all in this arrangement.

I'll bet you there was a clause in the contract that outlined the process for amending the contract. Mike Anderson did NOTHING wrong. He requested permission to talk to another institution and MU granted that permission. I don't know how the contract clause outlines amending the contract, but if a verbal agreement will suffice in this case, then the contract was properly amended and all parties abided by the terms of the contract.

I do at least one contract a week with a client. In my contracts the amendment clause states that both parties have to consent in writing.

The rest isn't any business of ours. And Ellis is right; this is actually pretty insignificant compared to many things that are much more "newsworthy"..

Some of you people need to come into the real world.....

Ricky Gurley.

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kevin martin March 24, 2011 | 9:48 a.m.

I am very disappointed with Mike! I remember when he was passed over for the Arkansas job, I felt a little sorry for him. Then we got him. I was so happy to be rid of Snyder that I ended up with sort of a man-crush on Mike. He came in and said many of the right things, and pretty much did what he said. It was very nice that all of our recruits were no longer from Detroit. He has kept a steady stream of good young men coming to the program. I've enjoyed is style of ball, and believe the boys enjoyed playing his style. When they won it was a thing of beauty. But, I must admit that I have always missed Mr. Stewart. We can agree that there will never be another Norm. This years road record shows me a lack of coaching, it seemed as though they were not prepared. I know that Arkansas has been talking of a coaching change all year. I wonder out loud what he has been thinking about all season. Now I can only look to the future, and be optimistic. A great school deserves a great coach, not just a good impersonator.

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Tom Warhover March 24, 2011 | 9:48 a.m.

Here's what some sports columnists around the state are saying:

Bernie Miklasz "This is the business. It's tawdry. It's frequently unethical. But this is what coaches do." http://tinyurl.com/47g3o33

Sam Mellinger: "MU has the money and profile to make some awfully good coaches — Tubby Smith, Buzz Williams and Randy Bennnett, just to name three — listen carefully."
http://tinyurl.com/4ox4b5c

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Michael Williams March 24, 2011 | 10:14 a.m.

Rick: I disagree with all your points. There is dishonor on all fronts, but mainly with the former coach.

I will elaborate on only one of your points.....the "why should we care?" part.

The athletic department may be separate and fund itself money-wise....but who built the facilities? In addition, the athletic department IS a part of the UMC system. It IS under the auspices of the Curators and IS under the scrutiny of the taxpayers.

That means we taxpayers DO have a very real interest in these contracts and the way we conduct this "sports" business.

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Ellis Smith March 24, 2011 | 10:20 a.m.

Contracts and agreements seem to be a problem. MU had an agreement (don't know if it was a contract) to play UCLA in non-conference football; MU welshed, leaving UCLA scrounging for schedule replacements.

MU had a more recent agreement (contractural or not) to play University of Iowa in non-conference football and MU welshed, leaving Iowa scrounging for a "filler."

I'm hardly the first one to point this out.

UCLA and Iowa resented being treated like that. Wouldn't you? The recent Insight Bowl and its somewhat surprising outcome are at Iowa considered payback.

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Eric Cox March 24, 2011 | 10:24 a.m.

Anderson has peaked, he's been good for the program but I'd like to see better.

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Drew Officer March 24, 2011 | 10:46 a.m.

I used to believe a mythical spirit existed that tied the university with the state, but not any longer.

Norm Stewart was the last survivor imbued with that spirit, but our collective psyche has changed over time, and the closeness that may have been evident in the past is now gone, and most likely forever.

The university, instead of possessing a welcoming warmth, now seems cold and imposing, filled with strangers who have little or no regard for any spiritual connection between it and the state in which it resides.

Anderson didn't belong here, and, therefore, his departure has no significance.

Goodbye, Mr. Anderson, and please take your crew with you.

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Ricky Gurley March 24, 2011 | 10:51 a.m.

Mike Williams: "Rick: I disagree with all your points. There is dishonor on all fronts, but mainly with the former coach."
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I understand.. That is due to your ignorance of contracts, severance clauses, and amendment clauses within contracts...

Hard to fault someone that is ignorant about a certain topic for disagreeing with me on that same topic that I am not ignorant about...

But, talk to an attorney; the attorney can actually explain to you why an amendment clause and why a severance clause is usually written into a contract. I don't really have the time to explain it to you right now...

Ricky Gurley.

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Michael Williams March 24, 2011 | 12:11 p.m.

Rick: Me not know about contracts? After what I did for a living?

Funny stuff.

But, you missed my whole point anyway.

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Ricky Gurley March 24, 2011 | 12:41 p.m.

Here are my points, Mike:

(1) You are not a party to the contract. You have no signature on the contract. Thus, it is none of your business. Not trying to be impolite, but that is the "legal view" on contracts. Regardless of whether or not you "perceive" that you have an interest in the contract; the fact is you do not. IF you however feel that you have some sort of interest in this contract, then take Mike Anderson to court and see if a Judge will let you bind him to the contract.

(2) Amendments and severance clauses serve several good purposes. One (1) of which is that after the contract is entered into, there can be issues that are counter-productive to the intent of the contract (parties may not get along, one party may lose interest and/or motivation, etc., etc.). In such cases it is far worse to try to bind a party to the contract than it is to release a party from the contract. IF you think this is not important, consider how productive the MU Men's Basketball Team would be with a disinterested and/or unmotivated coach.

If you knew so much about contract, you'd know that both of these points are concrete and undisputable...

Ricky Gurley.

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Michael Williams March 24, 2011 | 12:57 p.m.

Rick: You still are missing the point.

Coaches Stewart and McGuire got it, tho.

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Ricky Gurley March 24, 2011 | 1:01 p.m.

Nahh.. I think I am "dead on" with the point.....

No way around it... The contract was not breached. Mike Anderson did what was required of him to honor the contract. It is just that simple...

Even though you are missing the "real point" here, most attorneys will understand my point.

Ricky Gurley.

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Richard Saunders March 24, 2011 | 1:07 p.m.

Coach Kim Anderson, calling Coach Kim Anderson!

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Michael Williams March 24, 2011 | 1:36 p.m.

Good grief, Rick. Did you not pay attention to all the things Anderson said to the university, the public, and even a recruit over the last few months? Did you not read Tom Warhover's first link which summarizes the history of this thing over the last several months?

Do you not remember this community going to bat for Anderson's promotion to head coach when Snyder left?

Do such things meet your definition of honor and loyalty?

Don't answer that last question...I already know what you think of verbal contracts.

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Ricky Gurley March 24, 2011 | 2:00 p.m.

Here is what I paid attention to and read, Mike:
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Whatever happened to "honor"?

Whatever happened to "truth"?

Whatever happened to both sides of a contract keeping their word?

Whatever happened to "shame"?
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Layton: I think Ellis was simply contrasting a real "tragedy" from Anderson leaving. Simply put, this isn't a tragedy.

It is, however, a fine example of a less-than-honorable man.
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Let's quit the rat-race. Let's only hire coaches who are an alumnus of MU and were born in this state. Let's also not pay more than the president of the University. Let's make contracts VERY expensive to get out of.....in fact, let's get rid of contracts altogether. Why should coaches have contracts? All of you reading this....do YOU have a contract to work at your job???????
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Which is indicative of your lack of understanding of the importance of contracts, amendments to contracts, and severance clauses in contracts..

Which is also indicative of your lack of understanding of what is "honorable", "shameful", and "truthful", in contractual agreements...

Do you remember writing that, Mike?

You can try to hold a person's feet to the fire unreasonably if you want to, Mike. But you just won't get a lot of support for doing so. Especially not from me....

Ricky Gurley.

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Michael Williams March 24, 2011 | 2:34 p.m.

Rick says, "But you just won't get a lot of support for doing so. Especially not from me...."
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I know. You've demonstrated the words are foreign to you.

Carry on.

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Ricky Gurley March 24, 2011 | 2:44 p.m.

Yes, you are correct... I would not support your UNREASONABLENESS.

But I am sure that you could find some people out there that are just as unreasonable as you are....... So, you still have a few supporters, Mike....

Ricky Gurley.

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Michael Williams March 24, 2011 | 3:02 p.m.

The foreign words I was referring to, Rick, were "honor" and "loyalty". It is not unreasonable folks are expected to exhibit such traits. That...and paying your subs, not leaving the physical case evidence behind, and skipping out with no explanation.

Take the last shot if you wish, 'cause I'm done with it.

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mike golterman March 24, 2011 | 3:53 p.m.

I love the game of basketball and coach high school kids, but the thing that is really starting to bother me is the lack of respect and example coaches are setting for kids. Mizzou has 10 kids coming back next year that put there faith , trust, and college careers in Mike Anderson's hands and he turned his back on them. He was offered 2 mill 2 stay, but more importantly he showed his team money meant more and his word meant nothing! Coaches please wake up!!!

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Ricky Gurley March 24, 2011 | 4:30 p.m.

Mike,

You are too funny...

The implications that you make in your post are as if you know something about a case that I worked where I did something wrong, improper, or not competently..

The one case that you do know about, you only know such a very little about that if everyone else here knew all about that case and what little you know about that case, they'd believe you were a moron for speaking about it with such a small amount information.... You speak more out of ignorance than anything else on many topics, Mike. Just because you can use a spell checker, put sentences into proper context and use good sentence structure does not make you as intelligent as you seem to believe it does.. And you are certainly demonstrating that here....

I asked you a long time ago if you wanted $200.00 for looking at some Garlic Seeds and saying "I think they could be Garlic seeds"? You said, "No, forget about it"; that was here I believe (but I could be wrong, it may have been over on the Tribune?) At that time I would have paid you just to shut your mouth.. But now I realize that it is not about money, honor, integrity, truth, or anything of the like; you just like to argue and debate, you like strife and controversy. And no matter what anyone ever does, you will find something to disagree with them about.

Of course though, nobody would ever know this from talking to you face to face, where you seem to be a reasonable, quiet, and nice person. But when you get behind a computer screen.. Wheeeeewwwww Dogggggggyyy, Look Out! LMAO.

Ricky B. Gurley.

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Michael Williams March 24, 2011 | 5:06 p.m.

Rick says, "I asked you a long time ago if you wanted $200.00 for looking at some Garlic Seeds and saying "I think they could be Garlic seeds"? You said, "No, forget about it".
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You asked me to identify garlic seeds? Like you already knew what they were? Say what?

You and your client didn't think they were garlic at all, right? You thought they were something much more insidious, didn't you? You had no idea they were decayed garlic seeds....POISON was your version, and you needed someone to identify what the heck the mess was.

Which I did.

And then you skipped out.

Pay your subs next time. It might help you understand the meaning of the words "honor" and "integrity".

You said...about yourself..."I did something wrong, improper, or not competently"...not me. Yep, I agree with that.

But, anyway....back to Mike Anderson, which is what this thread is about. He apparently suffers from the same difficulties as you, so I can understand how we got to this point.

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Ellis Smith March 24, 2011 | 5:20 p.m.

@ Ricky:

Never mind all that, Ricky, when/where is lunch? :)

I don't care what anyone calls me as long as they call when it's time for lunch.

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Ricky Gurley March 24, 2011 | 5:33 p.m.

Mike,

If you are going to make accusations, don't be vague... C'mon, give everyone here a clue of what you are trying to imply, if you even have a clue yourself? Most of all, give me a clue of what you are trying to imply?

I found out they were Garlic seeds AFTER you had them. Wanna know how I found out? My client told me. She "made a mistake" and misinterpreted some information that she heard and jumped to a conclusion too hastily. See, that's what I mean, you have no clue about what you are "babbling" about... You are just sitting there spouting pure, unadulterated, free range, ignorance about a case that you have such limited information on, you shouldn't even be talking about it.. But, you are the one making yourself look ignorant.. What did you know about that case Mike? I had a client that said she thought she was being poisoned? The client found a container of seeds in her house and thought it was what was being used to poison her with? Do you know ANYTHING at all past those two simple details? Do you know anything else about this case past that, Mike. Anything at all? Do you even know the client's name? Do you know where she lived? And yet you'd pretend to know so much more about that case, huh Mike?

Why should I feel compelled to respond to, much less defend baseless "accusations" from someone that is clearly speaking form a position of ignorance? I see no need to defend myself against an ignorant person, its almost like beating up on an eight year old. There is no sport in it at all.... Heck, at least say something specific so you might actually look like you really do know something past a few cursory details of one of my old cases...

No, Mike Anderson is in a fine position, and he is much more luckier than I am. He is not ignorant and he is not having to deal with ignorant people......

Ricky Gurley.

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Ricky Gurley March 24, 2011 | 5:34 p.m.

Shoot me an email Ellis, at rmriinc@gmail.com and I'll send you the time and location.

Ricky Gurley.

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Michael Williams March 24, 2011 | 6:24 p.m.

Rick: Yeah, it's just such great form to hire someone to identify a poison, then conveniently forget to tell that someone you answered the question elsewhere....all while that someone is still doing work. Unpaid work. Because you never bothered to call. Because you never bothered to come get the "evidence". Because you skipped out.

I must admit, it certainly is consistent with the flames you've thrown at others in this place. And the video sped up so we couldn't see what you didn't want us to see at the Trib. And using poor Sanchez as your front man. And the veiled, invasive...yet legal...computer threats you've made here, or the vague, I-know-something-you-don't-know insinuations you made about various city employees.

Scruples-R-Us. Well, most of us anyway.

Oh, btw, thanks for the compliment on my writings. I appreciate it. Have a nice day.

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Ricky Gurley March 24, 2011 | 6:46 p.m.

Do you have a report, Mike? Did you do a report on your work, you allgedely did for me?

Do you have any notes? Did you keep any notes on the work you have done on this, Mike?

Do you have any documentation on your work at all? Could you share that with me sometime? Just email it to me at rmriinc@gmail.com. I'd sure love to see it..

Or are you going to say that you will not send it, because you don't have anything of the sort? Which would mean that all we'd have here is your rantings with no documentation to back them up with. Which is it? Will you send your documentation to me, or will you show everyone here just how much integrity you actually do have... Let's see it, Mike? Put up or shut up.

Mike, I used to think you were just ignorant. But now I am sure that your "condition" is far more worse than that.... I am not sure you can be helped...

That video, WAS sped up and enhanced for the purpose of getting to the important part of the video and for the sake of clarity and we can explain EVERYTHING that was done to speed up the video and enhance it for clarity. BUT..... We retained the original video, Mike. That is all that I am required to do to get that video into evidence. (1) Retain the original, and (2) be able to explain what was done to enhance the video from it's original form and how and why those actions do not affect the substance of the video evidence.

If you were listening to your instructor Barney Fife when you went to the "cademy" so you could become a Reserve Deputy, you might have known that.

Whats a "Sanchez"?

And are you REALLy afraid I am going to "blow your computer up" from behind my keyboard with a few magical strokes?

You are beginning to sound ridiculous.. A few more posts from you and we will have the rantings of a madman... LOL.

Ricky Gurley.

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Ken Geringer March 24, 2011 | 6:47 p.m.

Irritating skipping past the ricky and rickysaid stuff. Can you get a grip?
Coach appears to be a liar. We are better off. Go Tiges!

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Ricky Gurley March 24, 2011 | 7:07 p.m.

Mike Anderson may have lied somewhere in his employment with MU, Ken... But he did not breach his contract.... He handled his business appropriately in that regard....

Mike Williams just likes to pick on "poor little, fat, old Rick" when "poor, little, fat, old Rick" makes him look like a "dipstick" on the topic at hand... LMAO!

Hey, if you can't win the argument; ATTACK THE PERSON YOU ARE ARGUING WITH! Seems to work for, Mike Williams... LOL.

Ricky Gurley.

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Phil Conger March 24, 2011 | 11:13 p.m.

How much did the Arkansas boosters have to pay to screen Anderson from the media at the Columbia airport? Taxpayers may be interested in the answer. Might be a good subject for an crack young J student to investigate.

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Ricky Gurley March 29, 2011 | 9:57 a.m.

Okay; I have sat back and kept my mouth shut for five (5) days now. I was being patient, and just wanted to see if Mike Williams who I will not refer to as "Mr. Williams" would "prove up" his allegations against me here where he states:
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"Rick: Yeah, it's just such great form to hire someone to identify a poison, then conveniently forget to tell that someone you answered the question elsewhere....all while that someone is still doing work. Unpaid work. Because you never bothered to call. Because you never bothered to come get the "evidence". Because you skipped out."
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Which is indicative that he was doing some work for me all this time (about 2 to 3 years now) without any notice to stop working, specifically: "Yeah, it's just such great form to hire someone to identify a poison, then conveniently forget to tell that someone you answered the question elsewhere....all while that someone is still doing work. Unpaid work."

For which I responded by asking him for any reports, notes or documentation to indicate that he has been working on this task for me all this time by posting:

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Do you have a report, Mike? Did you do a report on your work, you allgedely did for me?

Do you have any notes? Did you keep any notes on the work you have done on this, Mike?

Do you have any documentation on your work at all? Could you share that with me sometime? Just email it to me at rmriinc@gmail.com. I'd sure love to see it..
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Now, so all of you will know; I have not received anything from Mr. Williams in email at the email address that I gave him on this forum.

So; the implications are either (1) When Mr. Williams works he does not keep notes, write reports, or document his work in any way (which is kind of importantant, especially if you are working for a P.I.), or (2) Mr. Williams has made some false allegations against me publicly here in this forum.

I'd like for everyone here to read his post dated and timed: March 24, 2011 | 6:24 p.m. and take note of what I just put in this post.

Thank you all for your time.

Ricky B. Gurley.

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Michael Williams March 29, 2011 | 10:12 a.m.

Geez, you still raggin' on this?

Heck, I destroyed that stuff long ago.. After all, the results, data, and notes were MY property since you never paid for it. You only own something if you pay for it. You didn't. Hence...shredder-time.

The only reason I brought it up was your confusion about the concepts of "honor" and "integrity". Pay your subs next time.

This issue is dead.

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Ricky Gurley March 29, 2011 | 10:43 a.m.

No Mr. Williams, the issue is not "dead". You made allegations for which you can’t "prove up" in a public forum with the express intent of negatively impacting myself and my company's reputation. If I were a litigious person, I would have filed a cause of action for libel and defamation of character. But, I just don't believe in filing lawsuits unless the offense is egregious and it is absolutely necessary to do so.

However, IF you want to talk about integrity, start with those allegations that you so heartily made here on this public forum with apparently no proof whatsoever by your own admission.....

Ya know; a good Police Officer, a good Deputy, a good Investigator, a good Attorney, a good Private Investigator and a good person with some common sense knows that if you can't "prove up" or "back up" your allegations, you should not be making them in public to begin with. Maybe you just don't know that, Mr. Williams????

Ricky Gurley.

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Michael Williams March 29, 2011 | 11:00 a.m.

Yeah, Rick. Yer prolly right. There was no request for "poison" identification, there was no visit to my office to give me evidence, there never was any evidence, you called frequently to check on things, you asked for a report, you never skipped out, and you paid for services rendered.

I had a dream.

(PS: But, what about your 4/24, 4:30pm post? Garlic seeds? What garlic seeds? It was all a dream!

Wasn't it?)

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Ricky Gurley March 29, 2011 | 11:29 a.m.

I think you are missing the point, Mr. Williams......

You state:
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"There was no request for "poison" identification, there was no visit to my office to give me evidence, there never was any evidence, you called frequently to check on things."
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None of this is really in dispute.... The substance is almost correct, although not completely, and some of the wording in your quote above is not completely accurate; and lends itself to giving the reader a false impression. Although I am sure that is on purpose......... I have come to learn that you are pretty good at that type of stuff... Kudos to you Mr. Williams, you should be a "hatchet man" for one of the next Presidential Candidates.. I hear there is good money in it..

I asked for a "cursory assessment". Don't remember that do you?

I said "don't do much on it until I figure out if the client will pay for this". Don't remember that do you?

I called 3 times within a 1 week period to see if you had finished your "cursory assessment". Ohh Mr. Williams, ask me for the recordings of those phone calls........

Mr. Williams, unlike you I keep my notes, records, and documentation FOREVER! Ask me for the dates and times of the phone calls that I made to you to see if you had finished your "cursory assessment"......

Ask my WHY those phrases above in this post are in quotation marks, Mr. Williams....

Should I blog this on my blog, Mr. Williams; so the whole world can hear those conversations and what was really said? http://www.rmriincblog.com

Just publicly give me your permission here on this forum, Mr. Williams.. C'mon... Go ahead.. Tell me it is completely alright with you for me to post those phone conversations between you and I on my blog.....

You started this "ugly, little dispute", Mr. Williams. This is the second time too. I ignored you the first time. But now you have to commit if you want to continue to engage me on this BS; Mr. Williams!

Ricky Gurley.

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Michael Williams March 29, 2011 | 12:37 p.m.

Rick, you're gonna do what you're gonna do. You neither want nor need my permission.

The important points are these:

(1) You've demonstrated that you will make threats, veiled or not, in this place,

(2) You've tried to run off at least one poster by an intimidating, veiled threat of computer invasion,

(3) You've demonstrated a propensity to make vague I-know-something-you-don't-know-but-might-reveal-because-I'm-a-PI-and-you're-not comments (most of them hurtful and defended only by you) here and on the Tribune.

(4) You've just admitted publicly that you tape phone calls without revealing that fact or gaining permission. May be legal or not. Doesn't matter.

What matters is...now...everyone knows you do the 3rd one.

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Michael Williams March 29, 2011 | 12:40 p.m.

oops.....the 4th one.

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Paul Allaire March 29, 2011 | 12:57 p.m.

Legal as hell, Mike.

But I also think you already knew that. You just wanted to play on those who didn't. Kind of a standard operating procedure for you...

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Ricky Gurley March 29, 2011 | 1:01 p.m.

C'mon Mr. Williams; be specific.. Don't be vague when intentionally trying to defame a person's character, you have to be specific to actually have any credibility in the mind of a reasonable person....

Of course though, you are not trying to appeal to anyone that is reasonable, just anyone that will listen to your pathetic attempts to libel me with B.S.! I mean, it would almost be worth suing over; but a good Judge would say: "Mr. Gurley, there really is no damages here because even a moron would not believe what this guy has posted, and the court is unsure if he even knows what he has posted"... LOL.

And Mr. Williams, just look up the term "One Party State"...

I know about those things, you don't, because I am a P.I., and you are not Mr. Williams... LMAO! Wink, Wink...

Ricky Gurley.

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Ricky Gurley March 29, 2011 | 1:04 p.m.

Better yet Mr. Williams, gauging the level of intelligence that you have demonstrated here on this thread. Let me give you the specific link to the list of "One Party States" or "One Party Consent States". You may not be able to find it with a Google search:

http://www.aapsonline.org/judicial/telep...

Ricky B. Gurley.

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