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LETTER TO THE EDITOR: Let's be reasonable about politicians' misstatements

Tuesday, August 28, 2012 | 12:15 p.m. CDT

Did the hounds bay when President Obama said that the United States had 57 states? Did that statement reflect Obama’s true knowledge of the facts? Perhaps. Did that statement reflect on Obama’s ability to be the president of the (50) United States? Well, it certainly was a serious error. Did the Republicans and Democrats in one ululation demand Obama be sent to Siberia? I don’t recall that happening.

Maybe we all need to try to keep a reasonable perspective. Maybe the public should take a stand and say “Not for anyone will we call for the tar and feathers; even for serious misstatements!” Besides, we now know for sure that Congressman Akin will stand up for his beliefs against all detractors.

Julia Williams is a Columbia resident.


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Robin Nuttall August 28, 2012 | 3:40 p.m.

Comparing Obama's obvious malaprop slip of saying there are 57 states to Akin's statements is ludicrous. I am sure you are not attempting to imply he's that stupid. Yes, I'm sure very stupid people graduate from Harvard Law magna cum laude. (not)

Akin's statements were incendiary, but more than that, they reflect the views of the GOP as a whole. MANY male members of the GOP in high positions, including Ryan, have bought into the "women who are raped don't get pregnant" BS. What Akin probably meant to say was the word forceable instead of legitimate; because that is the language he and Ryan have tried to introduce into law. I don't know why the Republican part is all aflame to get Akin out of the race; he just stated the party platform, which already states that they do not want to ever see abortion, even in cases of rape or incest, period.

The insidious truth behind the "forceable" or "legitimate" rape mindset when paired by the attitude that a woman who is raped can't get pregnant is this. They think if a woman is raped, she can't get pregnant. Therefore, if she gets pregnant, it wasn't rape. She had to enjoy it see; which makes her a filthy pervert who is lying to accuse some poor guy who didn't do anything wrong. And hey, since it wasn't rape, she doesn't deserve an abortion.

And seriously? You're going to say this is the same as Obama having a single slip of the tongue and saying 57 instead of 50. Think about how ridiculous that is.

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Ed Ricciotti August 28, 2012 | 4:04 p.m.

57 states =/= Women don't get pregnant from "legitimate" rape. Please know there is a difference.

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frank christian August 28, 2012 | 9:06 p.m.

Robin - "You're going to say this is the same as Obama having a single slip of the tongue and saying 57 instead of 50. Think about how ridiculous that is."

Think about how ridiculous your statement is. This guy can't read a teleprompter! He is socialist! You are going to pretend that pro-choice is reason for you and yours to foist his decimating, economy destroying ideas upon we American people. If he is re-elected do you expect that the availability of free abortions would reduce the use of that birth control tool? Would unwanted pregnancies decrease? They have not yet done so.

Tho you won't join, we have to (electorally) drag you back to a strong and prosperous America. At that time we (I am honestly, pro-choice), will be free to debate All the rights that some Americans, now profess to be denied them. Under the thumb of these people, our rights will be listed as the ones they want us to have. Try to grasp this!

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Rich C. August 29, 2012 | 7:36 a.m.

New day, new story.

Same old Frank.

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Mark Foecking August 29, 2012 | 8:29 a.m.

frank christian wrote:

"the availability of free abortions"

There are no free abortions available through Medicare or under "Obamacare":

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/...

"(electorally) drag you back to a strong and prosperous America."

A strong and prosperous America, that was the world's leading manufacturer and exporter, the world's swing producer of oil (with the support that gave to our currency), and a frugal and educated populace. All this is gone, and no Congress can bring it back, because it isn't something government had much to do with in the first place. We have to deal with the new reality of the US and the world rather than looking at the past for answers.

DK

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frank christian August 29, 2012 | 9:21 a.m.

"There are no free abortions available through Medicare or under "Obamacare":"

"The following is a transcription of a conversation with Dorinda Bordlee, an attorney working on the ObamaCare Individual Mandate at the U.S. Supreme Court. Without nearly enough detail, she explains that abortions, sterilizations and contraception will be paid for in your monthly ObamaCare invoice. Thus the term Abortion Premium Mandate."
http://www.lifenews.com/2011/10/12/obama...

" All this is gone, and no Congress can bring it back, because it isn't something government had much to do with in the first place."

We know, Mark, that your view corresponds with the Soros, Obama, liberal Democrat view, that the Time for a strong America is past, and to embrace the corrupt, United Nations is our only alternative. It would be nice to see your head "out of the sand", but it appears, that is not going to happen.

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J Karl Miller August 29, 2012 | 2:50 p.m.

Robin Nuthall,

Referencing your "Akin's statements were incendiary, but more than that, they reflect the views of the GOP as a whole. MANY male members of the GOP in high positions, including Ryan, have bought into the "women who are raped don't get pregnant"

Really? I would be interested to know the source for that blanket indictment of the GOP in general and male members of the GOP in particular.

The path to a reasonable dialogue is difficult enough without making it more so by being guilty of the same of the same misstatement of fact you found so offensive of Mr Akin

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John Schultz August 29, 2012 | 4:27 p.m.

Frank, the quote you list is not included in the link just below it. Where did it come from? My brief Googling indicated that the House bill was not just related to just limiting abortion funding, but contained other topics that the Obama administration apparently disagreed with and that the link you posted did not mention.

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Robin Nuttall August 29, 2012 | 4:55 p.m.

J Karl Miller, many republicans have quoted this erroneous information:

http://www.christianliferesources.com/ar...

James Leon Holmes (lifetime appointment by Bush as a Federal Judge, now Chief Judge, Eastern District Court, AR): "Concerns for the rape victim are a red herring because conceptions from rape occur with approximately the same frequency as snowfall in Miami" Moline Daily Dispatch, December 24, 1980

Clayton Williams, R, TX: "As long as rape is inevitable, just relax and enjoy it."

Stephen Friend, R, PA: "The odds are one in millions and millions and millions that a woman would get pregnant from being raped."

Henry Aldrich, R, NC: "The facts show that the people who are raped--who are truly raped--the juices don't flow, the body functions don't work, and they don't get pregnant. To get pregnant, it takes a little cooperation." (4/21/1995, AP)

That's just a few. Akin was hardly alone. The cries to have him step down are disingenuous. He simply stated what many other extreme right wing GOP members have stated. It's a very convenient way to justify getting all abortions banned. It's pretty simple. If you can believe and promote that raped women do not get pregnant, then if a woman is pregnant, it could not have been rape. Therefore, since it wasn't rape, she deserves no consideration and should not have access to abortion. A neat little bow on a very ugly package.

By the way, I do not think all Republicans think this and hopefully those who did have now been corrected. However, it's certainly not Akin alone who thought it. And it does not change the fact that the GOP line is now to ban abortion at all levels, for any woman, for any reason whatsoever.

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mike mentor August 29, 2012 | 5:16 p.m.

"However, it's certainly not Akin alone who thought it. And it does not change the fact that the GOP line is now to ban abortion at all levels, for any woman, for any reason whatsoever."

Robin, this is simply not true. The Romney/Ryan ticket have already specifically talked about this situation and clearly stated that they are not going to try and limit access to abortion in the case of rape and incest etc... I know you might be a little leary of politicians right now, since Owebama has proven himself to have, "mispoken", on more of his campaign promises than he has kept, but let's get away from the fear mongering. There is absolutely no chance that the legislature would bring up a bill and absolutely no chance of it passing and absolutely no chance of a law passing SCOTUS review. NO CHANCE. Zero. Zip. NADA. Let's move on...

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Robin Nuttall August 29, 2012 | 9:42 p.m.

Mike Mentor, the Ryan/romney position is brand new; as in, they did not believe or say those positions prior to Akin's statements and they contradict their earlier position AND the official party platform which was just voted on.

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Rich C. August 29, 2012 | 10:46 p.m.

That's my main beef with Romney. I don't really know his position on anything. He has flip-flopped on practically every position he held as Governor.

The GOP party owns him now and he is their puppet.

Speaking of which, does anyone else have any issues with the way Ron Paul was treated at the RNC? I don't even particularly like Ron but at least he is consistent in his views. I may not agree with him on a lot of those views but at least he is willing to discuss them.

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