Shelley Powers's Profile

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“Just in time to receive the letter... HSMO and the Missouri Alliance for Animal Legislation have put out an alert ...”
“If an initiative is bad, Karl, then there's still provisions to override it. But it most likely will require ...”
“Karl conflates the federal government with the state government. The state government has a citizen initiative. The entire purpose of ...”
“I visited Mr. Reuter's web site for his farm. http://www.cherthollowfarm.com/ What a wonderful place. What a ...”
“Welcome to the wonderful world of the MDA, Mr. Reuters. Frankly, unless you're a big agribusiness concern you'll ...”
“Send Paul to Iraq!”
“It is a slap in the face of the voters. I appreciate those who did stick by those of us ...”
“And it's already over in the Senate. In fact, it went into the senate so fast, it left members ...”
“And excuse me but I'm an a bloody adult -- I don't need some idiot representative telling me how ...”
“Oh give it a break. Missouri along with other states supports a concept called direct democracy through a thing typically ...”
“And the snapshot the Columbian provided (from the state) is inaccurate. For instance, it states the veterinarian requirement is the ...”
“Oops, I had already provided a link to the PDF. Well, I guess twice won't hurt anything.”
“The comparison you pointed out is hard to read and not very complete. I prefer the one that HSUS provided ...”
“And it was a response to a civil case, because the person is representing him or herself and didn't ...”
“Oh, ho Another one of the "mystery" commenters who only shows up for a specific post. "Tony Catlett", is it?”
“Tony Catlett, I live in Missouri as a five second Google lookup on my name would have told you. And ...”
“The dogs in commercial dog breeders would be better with Proposition B and no funding, then SB 113 or this ...”
“Tom Catlett It seems you're a fiction writer, because you make up whatever suits your story. If we want ...”
“A comparison of the Compromise with SB 113 and Prop B http://hsus.typepad.com/files/comparison-of-prop-b-sb-113-and-compromise-bill-4.pdf And, again ...”
“And here we go again, "The voters weren't informed" So we weren't informed on Proposition B, but we ...”
“What I think about the new compromise I detailed in a post at http://puppies.burningbird.net/article/opinion-compromise Basically ...”
“This "compromise" does not have broad acceptance. Neither HSMO nor MALL speak for us. Opinion on the "Compromise" http://puppies ...”
“The only deception being practiced is on the part of the Representatives. I've started detailing those from Yes on ...”
“Robin Nuttall SB 113 does little to increase the funds for inspectors. The Bark Alert fee is for promotion of ...”
“Ellis Smith, I'm sure he goes by "get" with his friends.”
“Robin Nuttall, On one hand you say that the UK shelters are different than our shelters because of HSUS, on ...”
“Robin Nuttall Private organizations cannot directly fund government inspectors in this state (or country). What breeder would be happy about ...”
“Robin Nuttall, why are the shelters in the UK different from the US? And what does this have to do ...”
“Robin Nuttall, you should fully read the letter before commenting. Kathryn Warnick is the President of the Humane Society of ...”
“You also have to remember that breeders add a burden on to rescue organizations within each state. The more adult ...”
“And here I thought all the commenting fun was happening over at the Beacon http://www.stlbeacon.org/issues-politics/176-Missouri_Issues ...”
“Mark Foeking and Emily Patterson-Kane The AVMA Model bill... The problem with the bill is that it is imprecise. It ...”
“I wonder how many people have actually looked at the 23 pages they wave around. If they did, they might ...”
“Sorry, meant Mr. Teeghman.”
“Now, having said the above, I do find that Mr. Weimer does seem to have an inordinate interest in seeing ...”
“Ricky Gurley, you claim to have a knowledge of law, but your use of this knowledge is inconsistent. You applaud ...”
“That upper limit also applies to shelters and rescues, though municipal pounds are exempt. This is purely punitive in nature ...”
“And there's more on this story http://www.themaneater.com/stories/2011/3/11/student-conduct-office-reviews-rji-altercation/ She was acting officially ...”
“A rational person, when having their drink removed, would ask, "Why did you do that?" Or they might say, "Hey ...”
“John Schultz, I agree with Senator Justus on everything...but this. I know this bill was targeted more at wealthy ...”
“Representative Kelly, as the senate just overrode the will of the people you may be right: it doesn't matter ...”
“Ruth, you can access the PDF for one currently licensed breeder at http://puppies.burningbird.net/FOIA_Request_4687.pdf Though one ...”
“I wanted to give folks a heads up: The House is debating HB 131 on the House floor this morning ...”
“I also wanted to give folks a heads up: The House is debating HB 131 on the House floor this ...”
“Mark and Terry, thanks for kind words. I must admit to getting pretty abrupt with one of the commenters a ...”
“The Missourian is a fine publication. I appreciate the openness, the paper's willingness to give others a forum, and ...”
“Sorry, sleight of hand.”
“In one of the audits, the auditor noted that the Department of Agriculture did not inspect shelters/rescues annually. Because ...”
“Nuttall "Thankfully, our legislators as a group aren't much intimidated by the hand-waving dramatics you seem to love to ...”
“Marion, thanks for the post. Well said.”
“Ruth Keezer, the Department of Agriculture has not stated what you've said. Do you have a link to your ...”
“I can find hundreds of bad inspection reports of breeders in Missouri alone, but you have to dig to find ...”
“Tony Robertson, soldiers are a different story, and it's absurd that your fixation against unions causes you to group ...”
“jim foster, there you go: can't answer the horrors of the puppy mills, so attack the shelters and rescues ...”
“Tony Robertson, people who work for the public do not have fewer rights than people who work for private industries ...”
“frank christian, Tell me something: when the unions agreed to the pension and wage plans, then what does collective bargaining ...”
“And to take this back to the writer of this article, Miller, I would suggest that he spend some time ...”
“The following is the Best Friends note on that auction http://network.bestfriends.org/campaigns/puppymills/16136/news.aspx And ...”
“And your crack about the rescues? Those people dogs to a better life, which seems to really irritate you, Jim ...”
“Angie, I gave you an answer, but you're not interested in answers, only fake outrage. Dogs don't live ...”
“Tony Robertson, I wondered at that. Ha ha, so funny. Public workers are workers, just like you and me. Forget ...”
“The teachers have been willing to contribute more to their pension and health care. The sticking point is giving up ...”
“Angie, you've asked this before. Next time, why don't you actually read the response rather than pretend to ...”
“Spoiled brat? Is that what you think? What I see is people standing up for their rights. Not sitting down ...”
“I have no idea what snide innuendo _Dr_ Foster is trying to imply with his statement about the rescues helping ...”
“What Stanley Stoner and _Dr_ Foster neglect to mention in their little back and forth is that the current laws ...”
“Stanley Stoner, the organizations expressed their opinions, and did so based on one thing: it is hard to find homes ...”
“Angie, rescue organizations and other animal welfare groups warned those going to the auction NOT to bid high on dogs ...”
“don dougherty, and to many people in this state, our welfare is impacted when we know dogs are living in ...”
“Tony Robertson "When I lived in Rock Port, MO, I could see Nebraska from my house." Is that, perchance, a ...”
“Robin Nuttall, one thing that Proposition B does is give law enforcement a way to crack down on any breeder ...”
“Tony Robertson, your logic is grossly flawed. Proposition B is about dogs in this state, not hogs in another. Because ...”
“Terry, I wouldn't trust what you read at that particular Facebook site. I find it unlikely that there's ...”
“Well, Michael, to each their own. Angie, you make Missourians sound like rural hicks, living in log cabins with pigs ...”
“But Michael Williams, you're making an assumption that we're commenting to convince each other to the other side ...”
“Allan Sharrock, Only if the chickens birth puppies.”
“Just a quick follow up: Ruth, you're right, the definition for pet contains the phrase, "domesticated animal". According to ...”
“Michael Williams, thank you. I know I'm not particularly welcome at the Missourian. And you're right: most likely ...”
“What does a definition for "domestic animal" have to do with Proposition B? The phrase "domestic animal" does not appear ...”
“Before we go off on tangents about definitions, let's refocus back on the original writing. I don't have ...”
“The reality of SB 113 http://puppies.burningbird.net/article/reality-sb-113 The reality of HB 131 http://puppies.burningbird.net ...”
“I'm writing once more just to apologize to Ruth Keezer if she felt intimidated by mention of the street ...”
“Proposition B was reasonable to the voters. Ruth Keezer, I don't care about you. But you misrepresent good organizations ...”
“I've never advocated that the kennels have open house. But I have asked that the kennels show us their ...”
“Here's one bio about me http://www.blogher.com/women-tech-shelley-powers?wrap=free-tagging/women-tech&crumb=4340 Here's my wikipedia ...”
“And Gurley, I'm an atheist.”
“Ricky Gurley, I'm not a licensed business in Missouri but Ruth is. She talks about sending photos of her ...”
“Mark Foeking Remember that the breeders today can keep dogs in wire cages 6 inches longer than they are; do ...”
“Speaking of Google, Ruth, did you know that Google has a Street View image of your business address?”
“Mark Foeking These dogs end up in the rescue infrastructure eventually anyway. If not now, a few years down the ...”
“Ruth Keezer, no, it will be a whole lot easier to close down bad breeders once Proposition B goes into ...”
“No one is denying that there are too many dogs in too many shelters and that many, especially municipal shelters ...”
“What reports, Ruth? The Missourian doesn't mind people linking articles in comments. You reference reports--what reports?”
“Ruth, why not the people? Why not provide links to photos here? You can get a facebook account and post ...”
“My last to this article http://puppies.burningbird.net/article/openness”
“Unfounded, unproven, unbelievable assertions, trying to tear down good organizations in order to defend what is basically a disreputable business ...”
“"Shelters have been importing puppies and dogs from other countries for years to fill the demand. They routinely transfer dogs ...”
“Stanley Stoner, I don't know you. There have been so many fake people on the anti-Proposition B side, that ...”
“And Caitlin, there's nothing about limitations on number of puppies that are sold. If you're talking about the ...”
“Ruth Keezer always neglects to mention the secretive nature of dog breeding in Missouri, and how they frequently don't ...”
“Caitlin McEwen Your logic just doesn't connect. You seem to be implying that property isn't regulated, dogs are ...”
“I'm not sure why one of my comments was deleted, other than I did mention the name calling of ...”
“mary simpson, what possibly makes you think I haven't seen a whelping box, a dog giving birth, or newborn ...”
“Terry, I rather expect that most of the "people" in this thread are all the same person. The Missourian's ...”
“Stanley Stoner? Seriously?”
“Caitlin McEwin, I've had exchanges with Wilson at the Quincy Herald Whig about errors and factual representations in his ...”
“Ruth Keezer, commercial dog breeders are primarily interested in money. If they were primarily interested in the dogs, or the ...”
“Gary Franklin, fair enough on "lazy farmer". I get offended when I read about "misinformed" or "ignorant" voters. Amanda Collins ...”
“What, Gary Franklin, you've trademarked the term "farmer"? Crossed the line? Is this like when two little boys stand ...”
“Gary Franklin, then I look forward to the state representatives rolling back the Adult Entertainment law that has severely impacted ...”
“Ruth Keezer, your representative is working on undermining the vote of all people in Missouri in order to placate special ...”
“David Loignan, are you familiar with the reasons why states added the ability for people to bring about citizen initiatives ...”
“I like the specific items you targeted in your writing. Because of Proposition B, I've been following the legislative ...”
“Gary Franklin, I have called no farmers lazy. However, I'm not going to be polite about large scale commercial ...”
“Caitlin, I appreciate the correction. I should have said minus one degree or said below zero. I get caught up ...”
“PS So Jessica, are yorkies a dog that likes minus zero temperatures?”
“Jessica, other people can read _all_ my comment, so can we drop the pretense. As for my earlier comment on ...”
“Jessica, your facts, do not include the number of puppies sold, to derive your percentages, nor do they encompass the ...”
“Jessica, unless every breeder in this state raises north territory dog sled dogs, no dog is so adapted to minus ...”
“Jessica Bryand, The BBB wrote a report based on the numbers of complaints it had received about sick puppies originating ...”
“I am confused at this guest column. Representative Kelly, where in the Proposition B text does it say, "This applies ...”
“Mark Foeking, so it's OK for other outside interests to spend money, but not HSUS? Or is the degree ...”
“OMG! Proposition B leads to shortage in puppy flour! http://www.thechicagodope.com/2011/01/28/puppy-mill-ban-leads-to-sharp-rise-in-puppy-flour-prices/”
“And Mark Foeking, I find it ironic that you talk about HSUS "tugging at heartstrings" with video of bad breeders ...”
“Mark Foeking Forrest Lucas, of Lucas Oil and Cattle, paid $350,000 for a series of ads against Proposition B ...”
“The reporting on the bill passed is incomplete. The statements made by the senators did not encompass all of the ...”
“samantha caldwell, are you maria schmidt, and did you forget and log back in using the wrong persona?”
“Juan I have a huge recommendation for you: just don't participate. Don't read the stories, don't respond ...”
“maria schmidt, the people that Jake pulled were anti-Proposition B. Or were you talking about the anti-dog activists?”
“First, thanks Jake. Second, folks, the Senate has come out with a bill to the floor http://puppies.burningbird.net ...”
“Children's school? Wow, I can't believe any representative would make this type of claim. They know this to ...”
“maria schmidt, I'm sure a lot of things were said in the meetings. I've heard that Proposition B ...”
“Terry, I find it unlikely that "jarrot connor" is a real name. Best to ignore.”
“Michael Williams, I can't do anything about your reading comprehension abilities. I see "dog" when I read Proposition B ...”
“jarrot connor, Proposition B was in the works in 2008, so you must have been aware of this as pending ...”
“Michael Williams I have no interest in people's wanting to find some devious "next step" to Proposition B. Will ...”
“This is not about HSUS. Yes, HSUS was a backer, but so was the ASPCA, and the Missouri Alliance for ...”
“So what do these representatives have to say to the consumers that have their hearts broken because of sick and ...”
“make that 'bears no relation'”
“The accusations of "pet" being used to extend these rules to other livestock are absurd, and isn't it past ...”
“The Missouri senate is holding a meeting on _their_ bills tomorrow, at 1pm in Senate Committee Room 1. I assume ...”
“A public hearing on Proposition B is being held by the Missouri senate, Wednesday, at 1pm in the Senate Committee ...”
“The bill referenced above is HB (House Bill) 94. Tuesday's agricultural committee public meeting is also reviewing HB 99 ...”
“Public hearings have been scheduled for three of the bills: HB 94, HB 99, and HB 131. The hearing is ...”
“The Missouri state representatives have introduced three more bills: one that would gut Proposition B, and two that would disallow ...”
“Yes Mr. Gurley, do share information on your investigation.”
“Mr Mendez, Since the inspection reports for both the USDA and the Department of Agriculture have to be able to ...”
“Allan Sharrock http://conservationreport.com/2009/11/30/industrial-farm-animal-production-the-cost-of-feeding-cattle-corn/ http://www.sustainabletable.org/issues/feed/ http://www.cattlenetwork.com/Acidosis ...”
“Mark Foeking, did you not read the article that I linked, with the poll results saying that people are more ...”
“Mr. Mendez, If we broke the law by entering kennels without permission, than we would be labeled animal terrorists. Your ...”
“Mark, we will have to disagree about the viability of Proposition B. I have shown in this article that many ...”
“Found it... dvm360 did an interesting story on puppy smuggling earlier in 2010 http://veterinarynews.dvm360.com/dvm/ArticleStandard/Article ...”
“Mark Foeking, As a recent poll shows, more people are adopting dogs from shelters and rescues than buying them from ...”
“PS I forgot to say, I also agree with your ethanol comments.”
“Paul, you're right about the new biofuel effort, except that this hasn't grown as fast as some people ...”
“Mr Mendez, First hand observation is not an option. Not only is the public not welcome at these breeders, our ...”
“Mr Mendez, According to a Missouri Animal Alliance for Animal Legislation county map, Boone County has 5 commercial dog breeders ...”
“Typos...grrr...I hate my typos. Jake, I like Paul's answer. I'll chip in for tickets.”
“First, Jake, thank you for the note. The comments have veered quite a bit from the topic of the writing ...”
“If the prices rise, who will be impacted the most are those who think McD's is the place to ...”
“Ricky Gurly, you're only here because you're bored, and normally I wouldn't respond to you. But you ...”
“Perhaps a break from the acrimony... A photo that demonstrates why we fight for the dogs so much http://photoblog ...”
“Jessica, we had this discussion previously. Let me refresh your memory. Since licensed breeders will not allow anyone other than ...”
“Jessica Bryand, actually this doesn't mean anything. For one, this was an exceptionally bad breeder. Two, most of the ...”
“Michael Williams, you're mixing things up in a confusing way. You say we're, Prop B supporters, are not ...”
“Actually, no Michael, this isn't _another battle_, this is the same one, which has not reached a successful conclusion ...”
“Actually, it was the Department of Agriculture working with the Humane Society of Missouri that performed the recent rescue http ...”
“Jessica Bryand, are you seriously suggesting that the dogs should have been left at the breeder, in the condition they ...”
“Michael, selective quoting only works when the reader doesn't have the original material to see that you've deliberately ...”
“Sorry, are _now_ looking for ways to...”
“Jumping into the conversation between you and Terry, Michael, but your assumption is that one single event can solve most ...”
“Virgie "Unfettered dogs WILL kill pups. Never before has a breeder had to let their dogs loose while expecting puppies ...”
“Robin Nuttall it's called the Puppy Mill PREVENTION Act. Prevention.”
“Jessica, no, the state representatives are not challenging Proposition B because of 1400 lawsuits. For one, I believe any lawsuit ...”
“connie, ask yourself something: which sounds more rational? My writing, or your comment? Cult leader? Anti-American? Seriously? If people think ...”
“Ruth, don't get so excited...it's the same small group of people submitting all the bills. There's ...”
“Andrew, this isn't the only debate happening, either here in the Missourian, or in the state. The Missourian has ...”
“Terry, thank you for kind words. I think it was Robin Nuttall who complimented me on my dancing skills. Robin ...”
“There are two additional bills: Senate Bill 131 http://www.senate.mo.gov/11info/BTS_Web/Bill.aspx?SessionType=R&BillID ...”
“Too bad, too, that the people supposedly protecting the environment in this state are doing anything but. But then, that ...”
“He feared for his life after his dogs sent the cat into a tree... Wasn't aware that Missouri hunters ...”
“Mark Foecking, all the USDA reports show is that Ruth Keezer's kennel meets current USDA regulations. This means her ...”
“Allan Sharrock Do you know how many people hit deer with their car in this state every year? Missouri ranks ...”
“Andrew Hansen, you are correct. The discussion is getting stale. Reflect, though, on the story you tell of yourself, when ...”
“Allan Sharrock, I happen to have a great deal of respect for one hog farmer in Missouri: Newman Farm. Those ...”
“Ricky Gurley "And I am not sure that in a time of near economic recession and constant threats to our ...”
“Mark Foeking, dogs have been bred for 15,000 years to be companions to humans. No, not all dogs sleep ...”
“Yes, what a great educational experience: kill one of the few mountain lions in the state, stuff it, and haul ...”
“"We presume no such thing." OK, that cracked me up. Thanks for the chuckle, Terry. And the defense.”
“Rick Gurley Thanks for the thoughtful follow-up comment. I do appreciate it. You don't want to impose your will ...”
“Ricky Gurley, I happen to dislike animals living in misery. I guess I get passionate about such things. It's ...”
“Ricky Gurley Thank you for your helpful addition and clarification that yes, no one has to answer questions in any ...”
“Ruth, curious: where is your kennel? Where are photos and a web site about your kennel? Do you use a ...”
“Sigh, another reason why comments are not the best place for longer writings... Should be "At some point, the dogs ...”
“Mark Foeking, I do not have a spreadsheet with all breeders. Every time I attempt to collect summary data, I ...”
“Actually, I believe the Alliance for Truth web site went down after The Daily Show did a show on the ...”
“Tony Robertson, that was all that was listed in The Alliance for Truth web site--which unfortunately was yanked the week ...”
“Yves, yes, I do need to spend time doing other things. Such as contacting state representatives. Ruth Keezer, your comment ...”
“Ruth Keezer, sorry, but no. It is not something I believe now, and it isn't anything I believed before ...”
“Ellis Smith, Proposition B is a corrective action. It is an amendment to existing laws, not a replacement. And it ...”
“Sorry, you _can't_ cherry pick when it comes to the laws of the land...”
“(I think the editor can begin to see what those who are for Proposition B eventually lose patience, and resort ...”
“Tony Robertson, So you wish to change our State Constitution? Eliminate the citizen initiative? As I just wrote, how much ...”
“There is something else we also need to consider: Do we, who are not farmers, or who live in towns ...”
“Tony Robertson The veterinarian association decision came about from the Executive Committee, not as a vote of the general membership ...”
“I have to disagree that Representative Kelly's post was a plea for compromise. Consider that we've had any ...”
“John Schultz The number is based on the typical breeder, and amounts to about 20 minutes a dog a day ...”
“According to a news story related to a meeting on Proposition B in Bolivar last night: 'There's also concern ...”
“Mark Foeking Tired of reading about this? Fine, then tell the state representatives to not mess with the bill, and ...”
“I just read a Letter to the Editor from Representative Kelly in the St. Louis Today. He stated there's ...”
“Jenny Thrasher As to the rest of your comment, no the USDA does not license shelters. Only Missouri licenses shelters ...”
“Jenny Thrasher Again, the same old misinformation that we had to go through when voting on Proposition B that we ...”
“Here's another way of looking at the requirements for these dogs. You take your kids to the zoo this ...”
“Robin Nuttall Sorry, but there's nothing in what you've cited that disagrees with what I wrote. That's ...”
“Robin Nuttall To repeat, and I will continue to repeat: Some of the elected officials in this state won with ...”
“Robin Nuttall, Your comment is deliberate misrepresentation. Dogs have unfettered access, which means when it is too hot or cold ...”
“Mark Foeking, if current breeders do the minimal according to USDA and Missouri laws, then no, they aren't good ...”
“Mark Foeking Proposition B works with all breeders, licensed or not. There are just additional repercussions if the breeder is ...”
“Robin Nuttall, there are several errors and factual misrepresentations in your comment. First, Proposition B will benefit the dogs. In ...”
“Mark Foeking I want to point you to another video, showing dogs that have been rescued from commercial breeders: http ...”
“Allan Sharrock, as Representative Kelly would say, a county vote means absolutely nothing when it comes to state legislation. This ...”
“John Schultz, there is a difference between business regulations and civil rights. Both the healthcare law and the gay marriage ...”
“Mark Foeking, Proposition B was probably the most contested and discussed piece of legislation in Missouri, and even beat out ...”
“To correct misinformation before it gets legs: Proposition B is an amendment of an existing law, the Animal Care Facilities ...”
“Representative Kelly, I took a closer look at your district in my spread sheet. Boone county had a 45% vote ...”
“The following is a story and video taken in 2007 of a commercial breeder in Missouri: http://www.caps-web.org ...”
“Let's check out Jessica's little statements. She's accused Bob Barker of being tied to ALF. This is ...”
“Jessica Bryand, I live in Missouri and I don't work for any animal welfare organization. Do you have anything ...”
“Jessica Bryand, it was the Department of Agriculture that needed to hire seven more people, and guess what: they've ...”
“It doesn't work that way. This was a bill that was voted on by the people of this state ...”
“Mark Foecking, Again, I'm not interested in re-hashing the same old points. All of these discussions happened in the ...”
“Terry, thanks for the compliment. I'm not particularly patient. I'm just not going to rehash the same arguments ...”
“Sorry, typo: "attempts to _repeal_"”
“I'm not going to go through all of the comments, but I did want to address the misinformation about ...”
“An excellent article. Very well said.”
“I agree that Robin Carnahan ran a bad campaign. I even emailed her campaign early on and asked them to ...”
“nicole ohora, your histrionics aren't justified. The majority of dogs released by breeders will, unfortunately, end up in dog ...”
“Another indirect benefit of Proposition B and the noise surrounding the legislation is that hopefully others thinking to get into ...”
“Thanks for your support, Terry. I've read elsewhere that the infrastructure put in place for Proposition B will remain ...”
“Bonkers.”
“Terrorism?! You people have got to get a reality check. Seriously.”
“connie crewse, the reported date is the date the problem was reported to the web site, not when the dog ...”
“Jessica, bull. I've found violations online about them in the 1990s. But thank goodness they are out of business ...”
“Search on the kennel name and Google returns _pages_ pointing to article and stories about this kennel, and the folks ...”
“The do-bo-tri Hughes had numerous USDA violations completely separate from the poor little pups stuffed into a truck without air ...”
“Jessica Brand Easy on the caps lock. I can't even read your comments, they're so full of caps ...”
“Jessica Brand, that family paid one of the highest USDA fines for a commercial dog breeder in the state of ...”
“To save dan dougherty from having to desperately search through the internet... Folks who run rescue operations without an associated ...”
“Allan, and you're a reliable source of information because...? You all are burying the comments here, and the discussions ...”
“The second time I've been called a minion of HSUS. I am definitely going to have a badge made ...”
“Marina...Marina. Sorry.”
“Many thanks Marlina and John for your comments. And a reminder of why we're voting for Proposition B. This ...”
“And there's more on Do Bo Tri and the Hughes http://www.pet-abuse.com/cases/8747/MO/US/ And ...”
“"HSUS and it's minions..." I read this and I wanted to choke with laughter, but the issue is too ...”
“connie crewse, you sure you want to ask that question? After all, it digs up a can of worms about ...”
“They violated regulations, they didn't break the law. I don't have a lot more to say on this ...”
“Kim Egan, the AKC is nothing more than a marketing tool. It has no legal standing, and its recent actions ...”
“Allan Sharrock, think about what you're saying: where does the government allow those with interest hir inspectors? That would ...”
“Jessica Brand, you can look up the details yourself, I provided the unique identifier for each breeder, in addition to ...”
“Kim Egan, unfettered access works both ways. When a dog is too cold or hot outside, they can go inside ...”
“How many of you have called and harassed people who were listed in the Yes on B endorsements? It sounds ...”
“I do not work for HSUS.”
“Jessica, huh, I didn't know cage free eggs didn't come from chickens, and weren't raised by farmers ...”
“"Jessica, whether HSUS is involved in Prop B or not is utterly irrelevant. Missouri is voting on a law, not ...”
“And Christian morals? What are you trying to play now? You realize, don't you, that the further out in ...”
“And supposedly you debated Wayne Pacelle, where is it?”
“I'm listening. The biggest mistake was for Barb to go on the show and debate with you. You're ...”
“Jessica, they are unavailable. That's it, nothing else. It is a violation of USDA rules for the person not ...”
“jim foster, so now you're going to start a conspiracy about this? Really? The radio show probably picked Barb ...”
“Cody, your own words, not to mention keyboard use, say much about you. I don't have to say a ...”
“Joan Archer Interestingly enough, there are commercial dog breeders who have less than 50 dogs who seem to do just ...”
“Well CODY, all I can find on Proposition A from 1998 shows rodeos as exempt, and that's what was ...”
“Scott Crause, If people are going to support an issue like Proposition B, or not, because of a single interview ...”
“Mark Landers, I don't work for HSUS, I'm doing this because I like to work with data, and ...”
“Thanks for the link, Terry. A very intelligent article, complex and intriguing. I look forward to the documentary. MoFed does ...”
“And the ASPCA is on the ground right now, facilitating the rescue of 34 dogs from a puppy mill http ...”
“Oh geez, one of the rescue people attending the auction of the Schindlers dogs reported that the auction company brought ...”
“Uh, maria hargrove, you have to have a Facebook account to see your amazing story with the REAL TRUTH.”
“Ah, thanks for clarification, Michelle. So if a person violates any provision of Proposition B the first time, they're ...”
“Sorry, but licensed breeders have violated both USDA and Missouri Department of Agricultural rules for years. Example from your licensed ...”
“Jessica, it's my comment, not my report. And I believe I stated in the comment that it would be ...”
“Oh, and so there's no confusion, I do not work for HSUS. What I do regarding Proposition B, I ...”
“So, Jessica, you know a lot of unlicensed dog breeders in the state? As for publishing information about the existing ...”
“As for this not doing anything for the unlicensed breeders, that's not true. The rules apply whether you're ...”
“Actually, if you look at the spreadsheet I'm trying to put together (when I'm not commenting on the ...”
“Jessica your question about disposing of dogs and Hunte--is this related to Proposition B in any way? I'm having ...”
“Jessica Brand, to see how existing rescues work, you only need check the Missouri news for the last year. Here ...”
“Yes, Terry, Proposition B supporters want to shut down all food production in the country, because we want to starve ...”
“Karen Strange, please don't generate misinformation about the intent of Proposition B. If it were to eliminate all breeders ...”
“In my opinion, there's not a breeder who will close up shop in order to move to another state ...”
“So, when can we expect an in-depth interview with a rescue organization, or shelter?”
“I've been trying to put together a spreadsheet of USDA inspection reports with notes from all active breeders in ...”
“I agree with you on Proposition B, of course, but also agree with you on Proposition A. We can't ...”
“That we do. I'm reminded of the wisdom of XKCD http://xkcd.com/386/”
“Abandon hope, all ye who enter here! And that's it for me.”
“Mark Landers, no one is attacking you. You're a businessman, this is the cost of doing business.”
“Michelle, I admire you, you have a lot more patience than I do. maria hargrove, you know you don't ...”
“Ray, come on. Michelle said who she worked for because she was pushed on it. And she also didn't ...”
“Kara Crass, the two show breeders are covered under the bill--they're exempt, like many others in the state. Who ...”
“And maria hargrove, when a vote comes up on HSUS in this state, we'll have a discussion on the ...”
“And Mark Foeking because of Missouri's dubious distinction of being the Puppy Mill Capital of the US, we also ...”
“Jessica Bryand, Santo Hill Kennel is below 50, and is a blue ribbon kennel. The USDA reports we can get ...”
“Mark, it sounds like you're agreeing with me and disagreeing with me at the same time. Regardless, the real ...”
“maria hargrove, I've had many a discussion with jim foster, and he is not what I would call a ...”
“Joe Vancil, you don't like laws that apply to a specific case? The best laws we have are those ...”
“Agriculture is about food, fiber, and by-product. It was a mistake to integrate dog breeding into agriculture, but that was ...”
“First, and most importantly, Proposition B is not about the HSUS. We're not voting on HSUS. We're voting ...”
“Mark, I've been going through inspections from the USDA for all currently licensed breeders in Missouri. I recognize some ...”
“Just saw the first anti-proposition b tv ad, paid for by the oil guy who also owns a cattle company ...”
“Here's a link for Terry's document: http://www.avma.org/convention/news/2010_monday02.asp I guess the days ...”
“Mark, doesn't matter if he's for Proposition B or not, his kennel demonstrates that you can meet the ...”
“Sorry, you had a link. Wasn't think. I was just rattled by the images.”
“Since Kim doesn't want cute puppy pictures, perhaps she'll appreciate these, instead: http://www.humanesociety.org/news/press_releases ...”
“Terry, I posted it to my web site, at the following link, if people need something to link: http://burningbird ...”
“Oh, and here's a story about puppies coming to Wayside Waifs (wonderful group) from a puppy mill whose owner ...”
“Kim A hobby or show breeder does not breed for the express purposes of selling those dogs as pets. As ...”
“Correction: And you just made the statement that this new bill would be a burden for you BUT, you would ...”
“Kim Egan I don't want to step on Michelle's toes in responding, but I wanted to address your ...”
“cont. For one, the department's legal concerns really aren't their concerns -- any costs associated with this bill from ...”
“David Rosman Actually, that is primarily the extra cost. The fiscal note can be found at http://www.auditor.mo ...”
“Kim Egan, We prefer to let the Widget Society of America speak out in support of the humane care of ...”
“From the BBB report on the state of puppy mills in Missouri: "Missouri’s program of regulating dog breeders is ...”
“On the one hand you say that what's really needed is additional enforcement, on the other you say the ...”
“My deepest sympathies to the family and friends of this good man.”
“Thank you for making the correction. Hopefully Ms. Murray will also correct her web site and remove the USDA claim ...”
“Kim Egan Sarah came into comments and addressed you specifically, including an honest response as to why she didn't ...”
“Large breeders unwilling to decrease the number of dogs will be impacted. However, their complaints that they can't make ...”
“PS APHIS shows Marty Murray's USDA license was canceled a couple of years ago. Does she have a new ...”
“Jessica, I appreciate the response, and apologies for shotgunning so many comments. I would have appreciated Dr. Meadows comments more ...”
“I appreciate your writing, Ms. Nolen. I spent the first 8 years of my life on a farm in Washington ...”
“Thomas Kirby, actually it is the fault of the breeders there are not enough inspectors. The current licensing fees were ...”
“Why no interviews with any of the local Humane Societies? None of the rescue groups? It's not like it ...”
“Doesn't the greatest danger of pyometra come about when you have a dog over five years old that you ...”
“Sorry, not _someone_ I'd trust.”
“Why wasn't Dr. Chastain interviewed? http://www.columbiamissourian.com/stories/2010/09/14/letter-proposition-b-reasonable-measure-protect-dogs-wont-harm-reputable-breeders/ I believe there's also ...”
“There are some inconsistencies. For one on the flooring--I doubt the USDA recommended tenderfoot. Tenderfoot is considered a "paw-and-claw" grabber ...”
“As we say in the tech field, Terry: +1”
“Correction: If I were working for an organization that is misrepresented as much as HSUS is misrepresented, I think I ...”
“Apologies for getting your name wrong. I have the devil of a time with this comment box, and going back ...”
“Sorry, another typo: it's Pacelle, not Pacello.”
“Columbia Tribune, not Tribute.”
“No Terry, I had not seen the Stephanie Shain interview previously. Very interesting, and somewhat what I said over at ...”
“Thank you Terry. Yes, that was an excellent interview. Cleared up a lot of the FUD about HSUS. I figured ...”
“And you're using bill that was originally called the Klu Klux Klan act, because blacks were being denied their ...”
“There are many commercial dog breeders who breed less than 50 dogs. In this state, and elsewhere.”
“Thomas, "We have the right to breed as many as we want." No you don't. You don't have ...”
“Ooo, typo city. Let's try this again: Voice over for ad for puppies: "The next time you're in ...”
“I had to add this, though it's snarky: Voice over for ad for puppies: "The next time you're ...”
“dan dougherty, I did search on illegal puppy smuggling. My apologies, it does exist. And guess what? Puppy smuggling has ...”
“Ms Nuttall, please, you talk about statistics in one sentence, and ask how I could question your assertion about no ...”
“Ruth keezer, I don't believe anything anyone tells me, until I do my own research. Thanks to the USDA ...”
“Robin Nuttal, pet owners are suing a now closed commercial dog breeders because of the various illnesses and defects the ...”
“michelle johnson, Tenderfoot was designed for hogs. You do realize that most small, quality breeders have managed the solid floor ...”
“There was an error in the article. For instance, Proposition B does not require cement floors, it requires solid floors ...”
“Terry, thank you, but I've lost my patience more than once in this debate. Speaking of which... Kim Egan ...”
“Sorry for using what some people consider a swear word in last comment, but seriously, how many times do I ...”
“Oh bloody hell... I am not, and never have been, an employee of any animal welfare group, including but not ...”
“comment cont. The pet redefinition argument is, well, frankly, absurd. There is no definition of pet in the existing laws ...”
“One comment only, addressed to the author. It's long, so I've had to split: Ms. Nuttall, there are ...”
“You all realize, I hope, that anyone undecided on Proposition B has long abandoned the comments in the Missourian articles ...”
“Sorry, typo I meant to say what HSUS kennel? Talk about pulling stuff out of his...head.”
“jake carter, if you're going to go off-topic to this story, you should provide a link to radio program ...”
“Marq just won the Godwin's Law award!”
“Lastly, this is the face of commercial dog breeding -- an auction, like so many others that happen every weekend in ...”
“Oh, and more on Tenderheart: http://www.petshoppuppies.com/report.asp?ID=43A3304”
“Oh, and more reading about "responsible" breeders, such as as the Tender Heart breeders listed in the sidebar: http://www ...”
“Mark, puppies from illegal breeders seldom end up at pet stores because of government regulations about a puppy having to ...”
“jake carter, I can understand your concern for your friend. And I for one, do think of the consequences. However ...”
“You need to be more aware of how your "You pencil pushers are about to get shown" comments can be ...”
“That's twice today in this publication's comments that I've seen what are close to actual threats. I ...”
“jake carter "Take away the vet incomes and well the vets will tell HSUS to kiss the big white one ...”
“jake carter, what are you talking about? The kennels have to provide veterinarian care. This doesn't change. In fact ...”
“The Department of Agriculture's fiscal note doesn't make sense. I can agree that it doesn't have the ...”
“Sigh...its not it's.”
“jake carter, when your comments are answered in another thread, it's disingenuous to repeat the same misinformation in other ...”
“Having made my last comment, Terry, the following statement really wasn't necessary or called for: "This seems to be ...”
“This is the second time Ray Shapiro has warned and threatened people who are making good faith comments in this ...”
“I think you go by DK, and I will since it's simpler: DK, there are no facts or proof ...”
“Marq Summers, your name is not among the vets at the Truth for Alliance web site. Why aren't you ...”
“Mark Foecking, where did you get the idea that 50,000 dogs would be put down? Perhaps instead of asking ...”
“oh for the love of... what do you all do, change your names and repeat the same comments, somehow hoping ...”
“Kara Crass, you're a person who pretends that you're a small cozy breeder at your web site, and ...”
“How this affects illegal breeders: The law doesn't apply to illegal breeders, because there are laws that prevent unlicensed ...”
“Kara Crass, how dare you. How dare you imply that the rescue organizations are planning on swooping in to get ...”
“Oh, and here's the vet statement attached to the Schindler's dog auction notice: "“I have been professionally associated ...”
“Oh, if you want to know what the current laws in Missouri allow for a dog breeder, read the Schindler ...”
“Kara Crass, you wave your hands a lot and say, don't look at me, look at this, or look ...”
“I found the article mentioned in earlier comments: http://hslf.typepad.com/political_animal/2010/10/prop-b-opponents-barking-in-the-wrong-direction.html”
“Just to ensure there is no confusion, I do not work for HSUS or any other animal welfare organization. I ...”
“Kara Crass, I'm not sure what web site you're talking about. I haven't seen anything that lists ...”
“Thank you for your answer, Cody. No one needs to go out of business. But yes, if this bill passes ...”
“Your little domain? Seriously? Does this publication know that you've claimed ownership of it? Are you the main editor ...”
“Ray, actually, I didn't say that HSUS has given out bad info, I said it was in error on ...”
“Kara Crass, you only need to be licensed with the USDA if you sell wholesale to a broker, pet store ...”
“Kara Crass, I noticed that you haven't responded to the links I posted. Tell me something--do you have photos ...”
“Ray Shapiro, sure you don't want to quote some of my HTML5 twitter comments, too? How about the ones ...”
“Oops, there _are_ exactly 1,451 breeders...”
“Cody Hobbs, Actually, there is exactly 1,451 licensed breeders in Missouri. I have that directly from the Missouri Department ...”
“More on Kara Crass': http://local.yahoo.com/info-33147639-muddy-pawz-selbyville Also search on Kara Crass in USDA APHIS http://acissearch.aphis ...”
“Allan Sharrock Think for a moment: what organizations take in the dogs rescued from the puppy mills? Who else will ...”
“Ray, yup, that's about I feel every time I get into a discussion with all of you who think ...”
“Last response to jim foster -- there's no reason at all any dog needs to be killed by breeders because ...”
“"They are egg suckin dogs. You can't break an egg suckin dog." Wow, how really profound. And such a ...”
“jim foster, 50 female dogs that can breed twice in 18 months results in a lot of puppies. Exactly how ...”
“Zach, the Missouri Veterinarian Medical Association hides it's Proposition B views behind an innocuous sounding title on its front ...”
“Ray, thanks for the compliment on the photos. I'm still trying to work through the rest of your comment ...”
“It's fascinating that those who are against Proposition B say we shouldn't make an emotional decision, are typical ...”
“DK, one thing the bill does provide is an upper limit to the number of adult, intact dogs a breeder ...”
“Marq Summers, I don't see your name as a veterinarian at the Truth for Alliance site. Which clinic do ...”
“Mark, and only 20 veterinarians have specifically come out against proposition B. The American Veterinary Medical Association hasn't come ...”
“PS Thanks for doing a side-by-side. The more people have _facts_ the more they can decide the correct course to ...”
“According to the AKC and others, puppies should be kept at 85-90 degrees for first week of life, decreasing from ...”
“Jon Kimes is the type of breeder that is purposely exempt from this bill. He is a small hobby breeder ...”
“Oh, and here's a video of one of those "blue ribbon kennels". http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdI2U6dgA8Y ...”
“Oh now, this is lovely. And spreading everywhere: From Talking Points Memo: "Anita Andrews from Alliance For Truth told TPM ...”
“Sorry, hit return too soon. Mark, the bill is very good, not only to close puppy mills, but also ensure ...”
“Mark, Proposition B is a very good start.”
“So, Mr. Shapiro, did the person who wrote this convince your to vote against Proposition B? Or haven't you ...”
“If I had my way, the only dog breeders would be those who did so based on love of the ...”
“connie, then if the costs are so high to raise puppies, you must look at Proposition B with relief. Now ...”
“Define too much money? When you consider that Missouri puppy mills are responsible for more dogs in pet stores than ...”

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