"We're starting to reach almost herd immunity in this nation, so we'll be on the downside of this virus very soon."

— Vicky Hartzler

September 2, 2020 on an interview with FM 93.9 “The Eagle”

In an 8-minute interview on radio station KSSZ/93.9 FM, The Eagle, last month, U.S. Rep. Vicky Hartzler, R-4th District, spoke on the timetable of vaccine development and deployment with Operation Warp Speed.

“We’re starting to reach almost herd immunity in this nation,” Hartzler said, “so we’ll be on the downside of this virus very soon.”

The claim touches on two topics: herd immunity and the timetable of the virus.

Claims about herd immunity are not new. We’ve covered the subject extensively.


Hartzler hit similar notes in an October interview with KMIZ/ABC, Columbia, saying, “I feel like we will rebound fully just once we get ... get this vaccine developed and we reach herd immunity, which could be fairly soon as well.”

We’ve noted before that public health experts say herd immunity is a questionable strategy.

Even so, we have a long way to go before we get to herd immunity. Here’s why.

What is herd immunity?

Essentially, herd immunity is a numbers game for infectious diseases.

The more immune a population becomes, the less likely it becomes for an infected individual to come into contact with a non-immune person and continue the chain of transmission.

Herd immunity does not necessarily stop transmission; herd immunity makes transmission less likely.

Individuals might gain immunity by getting infected. Or, they can get vaccinated, which isn’t an option yet.

That leaves getting infected, which is not ideal because of the risk of death and known and unknown long-term health effects. However, there’s another problem: Immunity by way of infection might not last long enough because of reported cases of reinfection.

The known and unknown health risks of the coronavirus in addition to the uncertainty of the immunity render herd immunity infeasible until there is a vaccine.

Why is it infeasible?

Scientists estimate that 60% to 70% of the population would have to become infected before herd immunity is reached. For reference, that’s more than 200 million Americans.

This threshold is where Hartzler’s claim falls apart. At the time of her Sept. 2 claim, 5.8 million individuals had been infected in the U.S., which is around 1.7%.

There’s much more than an order of magnitude between the infected population then and the one required.

As of Oct. 5, around the time of Hartzler’s KMIZ interview, over 7.2 million individuals had been infected, amounting to around 2.2% of the population — still a long way off from the herd immunity threshold.

We tried reaching out to Hartzler’s campaign multiple times for evidence but received no response.

Additionally, because the virus is so new, experts still don’t fully understand how immunity to COVID-19 works.

Cases of reinfection demonstrate that immunity from a prior infection may not be enough if the virus changes enough to render it ineffective. Once a vaccine is approved, supply may be limited.

Operation Warp Speed aims to accelerate the development, production and distribution of the vaccine, but it will take time to ramp up the supply of vaccine and distribute it.

So herd immunity through vaccination is a long way off.

Our rulingHartzler claimed, “We’re starting to reach almost herd immunity in this nation, so we’ll be on the downside of this virus very soon.”

Without a vaccine, herd immunity relies on infections driving immunity.

At the time of the quote — and now — immunity in the United States is far short of that required by estimates.

This statement is not accurate. We rate this claim False.

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